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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Elizabeth Hilton b1872 in Ince
« on: Wednesday 02 November 22 22:55 GMT (UK)  »
Tall Al, I remember reading that now that you have pointed it out, but there was that much information coming at the time it just slipped my mind. Thank you

johnhood,  Thank you.

 I have learned a lot about how to go about doing family history through this post, which sites to visit for information and records etc. I just hope I can put all that information to good use.
Thanks to everyone who posted
the fisherman

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Elizabeth Hilton b1872 in Ince
« on: Tuesday 01 November 22 23:56 GMT (UK)  »
It looks like my original thoughts that Elizabeth Hilton married William James Wright have been well and truly shot down.    johnhood and Tall Al have said all along that it was James Johnson she married and from what I have discovered they have been proved correct. On Ancestry there is a Public Member Tree called "Fillingham Family Tree" and pretty much all the same information I have been given here is on there. The icing on the cake though to finally convince me is the fact that I have now got a Death Certificate for Elizabeth. My cousin has been looking through a box of old photo's and post cards that belonged to my grandfather and she found it there.  Tall Al was spot on when he said she could have died in 1941 in the Biggleswade district. She died 9th May 1941 at Three Counties Emergency Hospital in Stotfold. Her daughter-in-law Ann Johnson was present at her death.  It also shows the address that Ann lived in, in Arlesey, but I don't know if I am allowed to give that information on this site. All I have to do now is find out which son married Ann and I can progress my tree some more. Any Takers?? ;D
Thanks everyone
the fisherman

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Elizabeth Hilton b1872 in Ince
« on: Sunday 30 October 22 16:57 GMT (UK)  »
wivenhoe,   I must be a right idiot because all I can see when I go to the vol and page numbers you have quoted is a whole sheet of different marriages. There is an entry under "Names of Persons Married" for Hilton Thomas and Gore and under District it says Wigan and then the same vol and page numbers that you have quoted, but I can't find a way to view a marriage certificate. How do I get to see it please.???

Tall Al   Thanks I will go and check that information.

the fisherman

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Elizabeth Hilton b1872 in Ince
« on: Saturday 29 October 22 23:44 BST (UK)  »
johnhood, Tall Al, wivenhoe, It will take me a couple of days to get my head round all that information and try to find someone who has access to Find My Past.
wivenhoe, here is the information from the marriage certificate.
Marriage at St. Patricks Church in the district of Wigan on 4th November 1867.
John Hilton aged 22 years, bachelor, coal miner, Petticoat Lane, Ince in Makerfield. Father John Hilton, coal miner.
Susanna Unsworth aged 21 years, spinster, cotton factory worker, Petticoat Lane Ince in Makerfield. Father William Unsworth, coal miner.
In the presence of, the mark of Rueben Townall (the first letter of the surname looks like a "T")
In the presence of, the mark of Mary Unsworth.
James Jolley Registrar.

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Elizabeth Hilton b1872 in Ince
« on: Friday 28 October 22 22:36 BST (UK)  »
johnhood, the 1881 census shows two Elizabeth Hiltons, one b1871 in Ince, the other b1872 in Pemberton. Ancestry gives clues to help find your ancestors in other situations, ie Suggested Marriages. Both of these Elizabeths are given as marrying the same person, James Johnson.
  I have a copy of the record from St Peter marriage register for the Elizabeth born in Ince and she married William James Wright on 29th Feb 1896.

amondg  Thank you for explaining what the GRO index is.

the fisherman

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Elizabeth Hilton b1872 in Ince
« on: Wednesday 26 October 22 17:23 BST (UK)  »
 amondg.   Thank you for the information about how you found the children although I am no wiser as to what the GRO index means. You ask who my grandfather is. I don't have his marriage certificate to quote who his father is but I have his death certificate. Thomas Hilton b1892 at 74, Petticoat Lane, Ince, d1972 at 9, Engineer St. Ince. I do have the marriage certificate of his parents, John Hilton and Susannah Unsworth. Married 4th Nov 1867 at St. Patrick's, Wigan. John was 22 and Susannah was 21. Both resided in Petticoat Lane, Ince. Both fathers, John Hilton and William Unsworth were miners.
 wivenhoe,  Thank you for that marriage, I will follow that up.
 Tall Al, those deaths are correct, Susannah Hilton and her son John Willie and I believe her father William Unsworth are all buried together in the one grave. There is also a two day old son of my grandparents Thomas and Ann Hilton in the same grave. John Willie died in a mining accident at what I believe is the Spring Pit in Hindley. I have a report of the inquest from the Wigan Examiner dated 20th Jan 1906. The cemetery index's for Wigan, Ince, and Hindley are available on the "Wiganworld" website.
 johnhood  Those three names are in my family tree.Thomas was my grandfather and Joseph and John Willie were his two brothers. See my answer to amondg for your other answers. Thank you for the information as to how you found Emily. Also for your info that the Elizabeth Hilton who married William James Wright is not John Hilton and Susannah Unsworths daughter. Must check on the possible marriage to James Johnson in 1894.
CaroleW  The person who is helping me with my family tree and has access to Ancestry came up with that marriage. I did say in my request for help with my family tree  " If I am correct........". It looks like I might not be correct.


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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Elizabeth Hilton b1872 in Ince
« on: Monday 24 October 22 00:55 BST (UK)  »
CaroleW, Thank you for that information. I didn't think to check the census for her marital status.

trish1120, I am a complete novice when it comes to family history. When you say there are three Wright children reg Wigan with mmn as Hilton can you tell me which register you mean.

amondg, I would love to know how you found out that there was another child, Emily b1901 d1902.
Also is there any reason why the other three childrens ages are all 1 year different from the census.?

johnhood, I clicked your link for familysearch but it is asking me to log in. I will have to see about creating an account so I can follow your link. Also I do not have the birth certificate of Elizabeth Hilton, I only have the census. I do have a copy of a marriage certificate which I believe is from the St Peter register of marriages book, page 121. It gives her address as 94, Platt Lane and her age as 24 years.
It is perfectly possible I have the wrong marriage for Elizabeth, I will have to try and follow up on the marriage you have suggested , to James Johnson.  As for Elizabeths place of birth, on the 1871 census for Ince her parents lived at 143 Petticoat Lane Ince and on the 1881 census they lived at 268 Petticoat Lane Ince. I have just looked at the 1901 and 1911 census's again and you are quite right, that Elizabeth is shown as being born in Hindley. Looks like it might be back to the drawing board. Thank you very much for all that information.

And thank you very much to everyone else for their help.
Maybe some kind person will be able to definately confirm if I have or have not, got the correct marriage. :)

the fisherman




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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Elizabeth Hilton b1872 in Ince
« on: Saturday 22 October 22 17:02 BST (UK)  »
I would appreciate any help to progress the family tree of one of my grandfathers sisters.
  Elizabeth Hilton was born in 1872 in Ince, the daughter of John Hilton and Susannah Hilton (nee Unsworth). If I am correct Elizabeth married William James Wright (b1872) at St. Peters in Hindley in 1896. The 1901 census shows them living at 16, Lord St. Hindley, with a daughter Hannah aged 1, and Ann aged 75, who I assume is Williams mother.
  The 1911 census shows Elizabeth living at 5,Back Granby St. Hindley with three children, Hannah aged 11, James aged 5, and Nellie aged 2.  William is not shown on the census so it is possible he died between the birth of Nellie and the 1901 census. I have looked for a death for him on Lancashire BMD and LancsOPC but I can't find one.
It is also possible that Elizabeth remarried, but I don't know how to find that information.
Thank you for any help.
 

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Thomas Gore born 1918 in Hindley Completed
« on: Friday 07 August 15 16:24 BST (UK)  »
Hi Sue-uk-64
I tried to send an email but it was returned as undeliverable. I will try again and see what happens this time.
Jack

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