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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Alice Tietkens help/interpretations
« on: Sunday 19 January 25 08:18 GMT (UK)  »
I do see this will where Emily Dinah Voake, widow, leaves 50 pounds to Alice
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHK-TQTK-BBCQ-D?view=fullText&keywords=Charles%20Edward%2CGurney&groupId=TH-7795-131997-46293-7

This might be a wild goose chase, but I am short on time, and will be off for a few days, so I am posting my notes in case it can be followed up on to tie all these people together somehow.  Sorry my notes are a bit scattered:

The above quoted Emily Dinah Voake was married to William Paul Voake. (Full name found in several of her annual newspaper memorials to him). William was a farmer, but did go on at least one exploration.

It does not appear that Emily and William Voake had any children of their own.
In Emily's will, she also left part of her assets to Frederick Eli Mason.  Frederick's WW1 service document lists Dinah Voake of Fowler's Bay as next of kin, and indicates she is his aunt.

Emily's husband William went on an expedition with explorer Richard Thelwell/Thilwell Maurice.  Depending on where you look, William's surname was spelled Voake, or Voke.
Richard Maurice named a hill after him, Vokes Hill in 1901.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vokes_Hill_Corner_to_Cook_Road

There is a huge article on Richard Maurice, mentioning Voakes, and also a mention of Tietkins:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/161769847?searchTerm=voakes
I can't tell if Voake went on with Tietkins or not, by the way it is written.

The surveyor that accompanied Richard Maurice was a W.R Murray.  Could this be the head or  relation to the Murray family at Yalata that took Alice in as a child?

Random clip of Maurice and Voake:
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-observer-voake/163394951/

More on Maurice
https://www.samemory.sa.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=218

My current thinking is that Alice got the "father's occupation as explorer" (if that is what the marriage document really says) correct, but didn't get the name right.  I am thinking that a lot of these explorers knew each other, and if one fathered a child, and with Emily D. Voake having no children, she gladly took Alice in.





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Thanks Heywood.... I was wondering about that "TON"!  :)

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I couldn't match the map to the route to the census enumerator's route, but  I found the streets on his route, EXCEPT for Hamilton here (thanks for the "how to link" map, Maddys!)

https://maps.nls.uk/view/101103800#zoom=5.6&lat=3889&lon=2760&layers=BT

Could it have been renamed, and then used again elsewhere?   ???

Collyhurst and Percival make a V at the middle of the bottom of the map, and Churnet is right above the black rectangle in the Recreation Ground, middle of the top of the map.

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Hi Jeff;  welcome to Rootschat!  :)

At the start of each census is the route the enumator took.  You might be able to zone in on it from it's surrounding streets.
Using a random address on Hamilton St., the 1881 enumerator for at least part of Hamilton, used this route:
Left hand side of Collyhurst Street from Hamilton Street to a point of the boundary line near the "White Hart Inn" along the boundary line to near the top of Percival Street.
Continue along the boundary to a point in a line with Churnet Street.  Left hand side of Churnet St. to Hamilton St.
Left hand side of Hamilton St from Churnet St. to Collyhurst St. including all the Houses, Courts, etc within the aforesaid boundary.


I get lost on maps, so I have not compared it the map Ray T provided.

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Armed Forces / Re: Published casualty lists 1914-18
« on: Tuesday 14 January 25 19:14 GMT (UK)  »
Newspapers frequently posted the casualties that were from their area.
This link might help with other sources, if you are looking within the UK:
https://www.iwm.org.uk/research/tracing-your-family-history/tracing-your-army-history/casualty-records

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Canada Lookup Request / Re: Same individual in two different census
« on: Tuesday 14 January 25 18:07 GMT (UK)  »
Argh!
Thanks for the heads up, Aghadowey!

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Canada Lookup Request / Re: Same individual in two different census
« on: Tuesday 14 January 25 08:19 GMT (UK)  »
Hi there!

I took a look at both censuses, and I actually think the Brandon one does say 15 Aug 1824.  Take a look at the other birth dates down the page, and the zeroes are almost perfect circles.  Look back at his, and it is a very sloppy five.
That said, his gravestone says the 1st!
Someone has kindly written his obituary out from the Portage La Prairie newspaper.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/178550416/duncan-mcdougald (corrected to McDougall on the site)

The digital archives at the University of Manitoba have some of the Portage La Prairie newspapers from 1905, but their site must be down for maintenance at the moment as it is not loading.
All I could find is this clip from another paper: https://www.newspapers.com/article/free-press-prairie-farmer-duncan-mcdouga/163008942/

Not often, but it does happen that a person is enumerated twice.  If he had decided to go visit the daughter, or was in the process of moving to her house, each household could have entered him on the census form, particularly if they filled out their form a day or so early, and thought he would be with them.

In one tree I did for a family in BC who were in the process of moving  up north via a paddlewheeler on the Fraser River was entered times. Everyone time the vessel ported, an enumerator made all on board fill out their census forms!

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: old family letter from 1849
« on: Sunday 12 January 25 07:43 GMT (UK)  »
Took forever to find the passenger list, but it led to this snippet, which you might want to keep with your letter!

Earlier ads for the bark Creole show "Clark" as Captain James Clarke.

No need to subscribe to view:
https://www.newspapers.com/article/public-ledger-bark-creole/162845782/

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: Adolphus Charles Tilbury Alverstoke
« on: Saturday 11 January 25 23:29 GMT (UK)  »

There is also a record on ancestry of an Adolphus Charles Tilbury in the UK Royal Navy Register of Seaman's Services

Name   Adolphus Charles Tilbury
Gender   Male
Birth Date   17 Jun 1866
Birth Place   Gosport, Hants
First Service Date   7 Jul 1884
First Ship Served On   Duke of Wellington
Last Service Date   3 Nov 1885
Last Ship Served On   Vernon
Service Number   127415

However I don't really understand what the record is saying, if it's the correct person is it saying he died due to an injury when on leave?! There can't be many other Adolphus Charles Tilburys out there.

This register is one page per person.  I think what has happened is you somehow clicked onto the "next page arrow", and are seeing the coroner's notes on the register for Claudius Bell.

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