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Australia / Re: Cross family
« on: Wednesday 04 May 11 16:31 BST (UK) »
Dear Sue,
Thank you very much for the link! I will try using it later.
alinerog
Thank you very much for the link! I will try using it later.
alinerog
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Australia / CROSS family
« on: Tuesday 03 May 11 21:19 BST (UK) »
Am looking for members of the Cross family related to those who settled in the Brisbane area in the 1850's.
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Fermanagh / Re: ARMSTRONG & Cross- Fermanagh
« on: Thursday 28 April 11 23:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Lynn Schrag,
Thanks for getting back to me so promptly and giving me an update on your branch of the family. I will let my cousins know about you. Wish I'd known before so I could have added you to my genealogy book.
I see you are right & Margaret Armstrong lived next door to Matthew & Sarah in 1870 Michigan census. It is odd she was head of household though.
You said Mabel married Herbert Guerney, but my dad had "Burton" as his first name.
Do you have death records of Crosses in CA? Which ones? Do you have Sarah Cross's death certificate? Someone said she died in San Francisco, but my dad thought she died in Michigan.
How did you know that 6 of Sarah's children died of dysentery? My dad never mentioned anything; I guess his father didn't know or else didn't discuss it. Did you ever hear of a son named Robert of Sarah/Matthew's?
Lillie married Frank Samuel in Virginia. They moved back to MI with the rest of the family around 1900. After William Henry married Elizabeth Goward in 1907, the two families migrated to California. I know nothing about Frank being in an insane asylum in Napa. However, I do recall some odd story about someone just going to bed and never returning to work.
My dad said that after Matthew died, Mabel & Burton Guerney wanted the estate settled, so William Henry came home (from San Francisco) to help. They apparently got a farm and the rest of the children got a cash settlement.
I don't have much info on Linda Cross Davies. My father doesn't have her date of death; only birth & marriage.
I don't have a facebook account, but will try to take time to sign up.
Good hearing from you!
Mary nee Cross
Thanks for getting back to me so promptly and giving me an update on your branch of the family. I will let my cousins know about you. Wish I'd known before so I could have added you to my genealogy book.
I see you are right & Margaret Armstrong lived next door to Matthew & Sarah in 1870 Michigan census. It is odd she was head of household though.
You said Mabel married Herbert Guerney, but my dad had "Burton" as his first name.
Do you have death records of Crosses in CA? Which ones? Do you have Sarah Cross's death certificate? Someone said she died in San Francisco, but my dad thought she died in Michigan.
How did you know that 6 of Sarah's children died of dysentery? My dad never mentioned anything; I guess his father didn't know or else didn't discuss it. Did you ever hear of a son named Robert of Sarah/Matthew's?
Lillie married Frank Samuel in Virginia. They moved back to MI with the rest of the family around 1900. After William Henry married Elizabeth Goward in 1907, the two families migrated to California. I know nothing about Frank being in an insane asylum in Napa. However, I do recall some odd story about someone just going to bed and never returning to work.
My dad said that after Matthew died, Mabel & Burton Guerney wanted the estate settled, so William Henry came home (from San Francisco) to help. They apparently got a farm and the rest of the children got a cash settlement.
I don't have much info on Linda Cross Davies. My father doesn't have her date of death; only birth & marriage.
I don't have a facebook account, but will try to take time to sign up.
Good hearing from you!
Mary nee Cross
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Fermanagh / Re: ARMSTRONG - Fermanagh lookup
« on: Thursday 28 April 11 18:36 BST (UK) »
Hello to Lynn Schrag & Lindsay M--
First to Lynn--I finally got a copy of the 1870 Michigan census & I see that Matthew & Sarah Cross had a son named Matthew, who must have died as he is not listed in the 1900 census. In that census, there is a Margaret Armstrong listed (as living with them as sister-in-law). Since Morrison was Sarah's last name, Margaret would have to have the same last name to be sister in law. There might have been a mistake in relationship. However, apparently they sometimes used both surnames interchangeably because on Matthew's death certificate, his wife is listed as "Sarah Armstrong."
The other assumption we might make is that Robert Morrison was Sarah & Margaret's father, but he & Annie Armstrong weren't married (which I doubt).
Now to Lindsay--no one ever mentioned anything about any relatives of Sarah's, which I found very odd. Now that you tell me she had a brother George who also emigrated to Moreton Bay, that makes more sense because I didn't think she would travel alone at that young age. On ancestry.com, I saw her name listed as coming over on the "Light Brigade." I looked for her father and mother, but never thought to look for a George.
I would love for you both to reply to me by email ASAP: (*)
I am actually making a trip to Ireland this June & could possibly try to do some research there. In any case, we are all related. I have copies of some info & a photo of Matthew & Sarah shortly after their wedding. Would love to exchange research with you. Would especially like to learn more about Sarah's family. As to Lynn, everyone wondered what happened to your branch of the family once they left Oakland.
Mary nee Cross
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First to Lynn--I finally got a copy of the 1870 Michigan census & I see that Matthew & Sarah Cross had a son named Matthew, who must have died as he is not listed in the 1900 census. In that census, there is a Margaret Armstrong listed (as living with them as sister-in-law). Since Morrison was Sarah's last name, Margaret would have to have the same last name to be sister in law. There might have been a mistake in relationship. However, apparently they sometimes used both surnames interchangeably because on Matthew's death certificate, his wife is listed as "Sarah Armstrong."
The other assumption we might make is that Robert Morrison was Sarah & Margaret's father, but he & Annie Armstrong weren't married (which I doubt).
Now to Lindsay--no one ever mentioned anything about any relatives of Sarah's, which I found very odd. Now that you tell me she had a brother George who also emigrated to Moreton Bay, that makes more sense because I didn't think she would travel alone at that young age. On ancestry.com, I saw her name listed as coming over on the "Light Brigade." I looked for her father and mother, but never thought to look for a George.
I would love for you both to reply to me by email ASAP: (*)
I am actually making a trip to Ireland this June & could possibly try to do some research there. In any case, we are all related. I have copies of some info & a photo of Matthew & Sarah shortly after their wedding. Would love to exchange research with you. Would especially like to learn more about Sarah's family. As to Lynn, everyone wondered what happened to your branch of the family once they left Oakland.
Mary nee Cross
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Fermanagh / Re: ARMSTRONG - Fermanagh lookup
« on: Sunday 06 March 11 01:33 GMT (UK) »
Dear Lynn,
Just recently discovered rootschat and your message re Sarah Armstrong Morrison Cross. She and Matthew Cross are also my great-grandparents. I just completed a Cross family history book (over 200 pages) based on my father's years of research. He had obtained copies of the 1880 and 1900 censuses in Michigan but had no 1870 census.
Do you have a copy? I have no record of a son named "Matthew" being born to Matthew and Sarah Cross and would love to get a copy of this census.
Emma Cross Roy was the youngest sister of my grandfather William Henry Cross. The family did lose touch with the Roys I believe.
I would like to find more information on Sarah Morrison Cross. I would like to know when she left Ireland (and with whom she traveled) and when she entered Australia and the names of the ships.
Matthew emigrated to Sydney, Australia in 1855 on the Asiatic.
I would also like to know where you found the family tree online.
Thanks for any information you can provide.
Mary nee Cross
Just recently discovered rootschat and your message re Sarah Armstrong Morrison Cross. She and Matthew Cross are also my great-grandparents. I just completed a Cross family history book (over 200 pages) based on my father's years of research. He had obtained copies of the 1880 and 1900 censuses in Michigan but had no 1870 census.
Do you have a copy? I have no record of a son named "Matthew" being born to Matthew and Sarah Cross and would love to get a copy of this census.
Emma Cross Roy was the youngest sister of my grandfather William Henry Cross. The family did lose touch with the Roys I believe.
I would like to find more information on Sarah Morrison Cross. I would like to know when she left Ireland (and with whom she traveled) and when she entered Australia and the names of the ships.
Matthew emigrated to Sydney, Australia in 1855 on the Asiatic.
I would also like to know where you found the family tree online.
Thanks for any information you can provide.
Mary nee Cross
Hi Armstrong researchers,
I don't know if this is the right family but I am going to list my known info and see if you can help me in any way. My husband's great grandparents were Mathew Thompson Cross b. 27 May 1834 Prickwillow, Ely, Cambs, England and Sarah Jane Morrison b. Enniskillen, Fermanagh, Ireland - Dec 1846. Mathew emigrated to Australia around 1855 from England and worked in the Bendigo Gold Mines. He met Sarah in Australia and they married in Ipswich, QLD 3 Apr 1865. They left for America shortly afterward (a son Mathew was born in Shelby, Macomb County Michigan in 1867 according to the 1870 census). The family tree online lists Sarah's father as Robert Morrison and her mother as Annie Armstrong of Ireland. On the 1880 US census for Michigan I have found a Margaret Armstrong b. 1858 in Ireland listed as sister in law and living next door to Mathew and Sarah. My husband's line goes through Mathew and Sarah's daughter Emma Cross who marries Oscar Joseph Roy. Their child is Florence B. Roy born in Oakland, California and then my husband Lonnie. Any help in figuring this out would be greatly appreciated. Lynn
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