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Antrim / Offer of FREE DNA TESTS for White & Stewart families of Broughshane
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Hi. I am interested in this topic because I want to identify the father of my Presbyterian tritavus James STEWART (~1740-1829). He & his wife Rose sailed from Belfast on October 2, 1767 aboard the "Earl of Donegal" according to a list of passengers that was made after they landed in Charleston, South Carolina on December 22, 1767. The Council Journals of SC are the source of the following excerpt (I hope that you will be able to make sense of it despite its format).
Names (pages 313-318) Birth year | age Acres received (pages 319-324) Line
John White 1720 | 47 450 63
Ann White 1727 | 40 64
William White 1753 | 14 65
Margaret White 1756 | 11 66
Helen White 1758 | 9 67
Isabell White 1760 | 7 68
Jannet White 1762 | 5 69
Victoria White 1764 | 3 70
James Stewart (died 10/2/29 "aged 90") 1741 | 26 (150 to John Stewart) 71
Rose Stewart (died 5/31/1832) 1745 | 22 72
(100 to Elizabeth White) 73
Eleanor White 1717 | 50 100 74
I wonder if Eleanor WHITE was the mother or aunt of my ggggGmother Rose.
That the Stewarts & Whites are commingled in the above list may be evidence that what one of my deceased cousins told me is true, that our Stewart ancestors & the Whites were friends & neighbors before they left Ireland (both families have lived a few miles from each other in Chester county, SC ever since).
A genealogy book published by descendants of the aforesaid White family stated that their White ancestors may have come from Broughshane. I therefore visited the beautiful little old first Presbyterian church in Broughshane about 1968 & met the friendly pastor, who kindly allowed me to read the records of that church. What I read gave me the impression that the Whites were a very socially prominent family ( & therefore unrelated to me). I was disappointed that I read nothing about my known Stewart ancestors.
I remember that the name of a William Hamilton Stewart who was born about 1739 was inscribed on a large tombstone near the front door of the aforesaid church because a member of my own family who has exactly the same name was born exactly 200 years later.
I searched for many years & finally found a descendant of one of the authors of the aforesaid genealogy book who was willing to have his DNA tested. His results match those of a few other people with the surname White. For about ten years I have also been trying to find men who:
I am not a patrilineal descendant of King Robert II of Scotland. I thought that I might be because of what I read on a web site that used to be at www.freewebs.com/weirfamilyorigins/ : "Elizabeth White's father was James Robert White, 25/6/1787-9/1/1872. His parents were James White. 1757-1804, & Jane Stewart, 1761-1804, second cousins, who married 4/1/1782. James White was the son of John White, b. c. 1720, who was the son of James White, b. c. 1690, & Frances Stewart, b. c. 1690. James White was the son of Rev. Fulke White, 1662-24/8/1716. . . . That the White family of Whitehall, Broughshane, were of eminent lineage is shown by their close association with the Stewart family, who were of royal descent . . . . Colonel Hon. Robert Stewart was the son of Andrew Stewart , 3rd. Lord Stewart of Ochiltree, c. 1565-1628 . . . "
Three of FTDNA's royal Stewart projects are at:
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Stuart/default.aspx
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Stewart-Bute
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/R-S781
By the way, R1b1a2a1a2c1i1a used to be the name of the haplogroup to which I belong. ISOGG renamed that haplogroup R1b1a1a2a1a2c1i1a (also known as L744/S388, L745/S463, L746/S310).
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THE BEST & CHEAPEST WAY FOR A FAMILY TO ACHIEVE ITS GENEALOGICAL GOALS
Big Y & other NGS tests are orders of magnitude more likely to help a family to achieve its genealogical goals ( & for far less money in the long run) than STR tests. E.g., a year or two ago I discovered via the results of my BIG Y test that I have a mutation (SNP) known as R-S781 ( & therefore belong to y-haplogroup R1b1a1a2a1a2c1i1a1) that is inherited only by patrilineal descendants of Sir John Stewart of Bonkyll (he died fighting against the Germanic Anglo-Saxons for the independence of Celtic Scotland on 22 July 1298 at the Battle of Falkirk, & was the ninth great grandfather of King James I of England). See http://www.yseq.net/product_reviews_info.php?products_id=12172&reviews_id=96
The reason that I have not participated in this forum for many years is that I do not like to waste hours of my time writing anything that censors do not want others to read. I hope that they will XXXXXX out any information that is forbidden, & allow members of this forum to read the remainder.
Disclosing personal information, e.g., about my ancestry, DNA test results, email addresses, etc. via the Internet for many decades has never caused me the least problem. I am thankful that I rarely receive unwanted email (my Gmail email account automatically filters out all spam).
Names (pages 313-318) Birth year | age Acres received (pages 319-324) Line
John White 1720 | 47 450 63
Ann White 1727 | 40 64
William White 1753 | 14 65
Margaret White 1756 | 11 66
Helen White 1758 | 9 67
Isabell White 1760 | 7 68
Jannet White 1762 | 5 69
Victoria White 1764 | 3 70
James Stewart (died 10/2/29 "aged 90") 1741 | 26 (150 to John Stewart) 71
Rose Stewart (died 5/31/1832) 1745 | 22 72
(100 to Elizabeth White) 73
Eleanor White 1717 | 50 100 74
I wonder if Eleanor WHITE was the mother or aunt of my ggggGmother Rose.
That the Stewarts & Whites are commingled in the above list may be evidence that what one of my deceased cousins told me is true, that our Stewart ancestors & the Whites were friends & neighbors before they left Ireland (both families have lived a few miles from each other in Chester county, SC ever since).
A genealogy book published by descendants of the aforesaid White family stated that their White ancestors may have come from Broughshane. I therefore visited the beautiful little old first Presbyterian church in Broughshane about 1968 & met the friendly pastor, who kindly allowed me to read the records of that church. What I read gave me the impression that the Whites were a very socially prominent family ( & therefore unrelated to me). I was disappointed that I read nothing about my known Stewart ancestors.
I remember that the name of a William Hamilton Stewart who was born about 1739 was inscribed on a large tombstone near the front door of the aforesaid church because a member of my own family who has exactly the same name was born exactly 200 years later.
I searched for many years & finally found a descendant of one of the authors of the aforesaid genealogy book who was willing to have his DNA tested. His results match those of a few other people with the surname White. For about ten years I have also been trying to find men who:
- Are willing to allow me to pay FTDNA to test their DNA.
- Have the surnames WHITE and STEWART.
- Live in Broughshane.
I am not a patrilineal descendant of King Robert II of Scotland. I thought that I might be because of what I read on a web site that used to be at www.freewebs.com/weirfamilyorigins/ : "Elizabeth White's father was James Robert White, 25/6/1787-9/1/1872. His parents were James White. 1757-1804, & Jane Stewart, 1761-1804, second cousins, who married 4/1/1782. James White was the son of John White, b. c. 1720, who was the son of James White, b. c. 1690, & Frances Stewart, b. c. 1690. James White was the son of Rev. Fulke White, 1662-24/8/1716. . . . That the White family of Whitehall, Broughshane, were of eminent lineage is shown by their close association with the Stewart family, who were of royal descent . . . . Colonel Hon. Robert Stewart was the son of Andrew Stewart , 3rd. Lord Stewart of Ochiltree, c. 1565-1628 . . . "
Three of FTDNA's royal Stewart projects are at:
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Stuart/default.aspx
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Stewart-Bute
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/R-S781
By the way, R1b1a2a1a2c1i1a used to be the name of the haplogroup to which I belong. ISOGG renamed that haplogroup R1b1a1a2a1a2c1i1a (also known as L744/S388, L745/S463, L746/S310).
--
THE BEST & CHEAPEST WAY FOR A FAMILY TO ACHIEVE ITS GENEALOGICAL GOALS
Big Y & other NGS tests are orders of magnitude more likely to help a family to achieve its genealogical goals ( & for far less money in the long run) than STR tests. E.g., a year or two ago I discovered via the results of my BIG Y test that I have a mutation (SNP) known as R-S781 ( & therefore belong to y-haplogroup R1b1a1a2a1a2c1i1a1) that is inherited only by patrilineal descendants of Sir John Stewart of Bonkyll (he died fighting against the Germanic Anglo-Saxons for the independence of Celtic Scotland on 22 July 1298 at the Battle of Falkirk, & was the ninth great grandfather of King James I of England). See http://www.yseq.net/product_reviews_info.php?products_id=12172&reviews_id=96
The reason that I have not participated in this forum for many years is that I do not like to waste hours of my time writing anything that censors do not want others to read. I hope that they will XXXXXX out any information that is forbidden, & allow members of this forum to read the remainder.
Disclosing personal information, e.g., about my ancestry, DNA test results, email addresses, etc. via the Internet for many decades has never caused me the least problem. I am thankful that I rarely receive unwanted email (my Gmail email account automatically filters out all spam).