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Dublin / Re: Gunsmiths & Apprenticeship 1820-1835
« on: Sunday 06 March 16 11:00 GMT (UK)  »
Dublin had many excellent gunsmiths at the dates you mention - possibly the most famous is John Rigby, started in business in the late 1700's, opened a shop in London c 1860 and eventually closed their Irish operations c 1900.  Rigby still trade in London. William Kavanagh was another well-known and highly regarded firm firm, closed about 100 years ago. These two are probably the best known, but there were many more smaller ones. I don't know if any records survive.

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Dublin / Re: frewen family
« on: Wednesday 15 July 15 12:39 BST (UK)  »
Donno,
See my response #12 earlier. The Huguenot suggestion is IMO a wrong lead. There was a William Samuel Frewen involved in a court case over an election (City Council?) in the 1850's in Dublin. He was a Relieving Officer (+/- Welfare Officer) in Meath St area (not far from Hannover Court/ Patrick St.) and was accussed of buying votes for his candidate.  What lineage have you got to date? 

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Cork / Re: McDonnell's of Mallow 1850-1950's
« on: Tuesday 04 November 14 15:25 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,
My husbands family come from Mallow,Cork
John McDonnell DOB 1869 son of Jack/John McDonnell.
.......

I too have McDonnells from Mallow but have not tried to investigate further (yet!)

Gen -2       Francis McDonnell – would have been born 1820-30. His son:-

Gen -1      James McDonnell married Anne Shanahan ‘Cork’ 1856. Described as “deceased, solicitor's clerk” on his daughter Annie's marriage cert. in 1881. Other children of that marriage, all born 1860s, were Isabella (died as infant), James (b.1866 - went to NYC, was living in Brooklyn in 1910), John Henry (b.1868), Joseph (b.1869) and “Polly” (no infor on her, possibly a niece?). His daughter :-

Gen 0      Annie McDonnell (1859 – 1904) Married Peter Kelly 1881
I would be interested if anyone had any additional info….

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Tipperary / Re: "Roady"
« on: Sunday 04 March 12 21:54 GMT (UK)  »
When Roady (or usually Rody) is a suffix it usually is associated with the Ryan family  - the Ryan Rody's. In my Ryan Rody line I was told by my grandfather (born 1890s) that it is derived from their red hair ( ruadh in Irish.) If it is for e.g. Roddy Ryan, it is most likely that it is from Rory,  (ruaidhri in Irish) which name is anglicized as Roger.
K.

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Kerry / Re: Placename Co. Kerry
« on: Wednesday 07 September 11 19:14 BST (UK)  »
I would go along with Killarney for the second word. I've seen  'via Killarney' on addresses in Sneem, which is almost as far as Cahirciveen from Killarney. Cahirciveen had ferries - to Valentia Island, and to a place referred to locally as 'over the water' (use is so common that I cannot for now remember its correct name!  :-[ )
Rs
K.

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Dublin / Re: frewen family
« on: Saturday 04 June 11 12:11 BST (UK)  »
I looked in my file of Misc. Frewen/Frewin/Fruin/Fruen 's using Mayfield as a searchword and found a single entry - James Mayfield and Ellen Maria married on 25 Jul 1830 in St John’s Limerick. Today St. Johns is the Catholic cathedral in Limerick, (present one built in 1861) ....wonder if the earlier St. Johns also was RC, which is interesting, considering that Sophia in Dublin married in a CoI ceremony. It also proves my hunch that there was a strong likelihood of a Limerick Frewen connection ;)
Rs
K.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Handwriting Gaelic to English please
« on: Thursday 19 May 11 23:15 BST (UK)  »
Her Majesty's pronunciation was pretty good too. A hugely appreciated gesture in a truly historic visit.

+1
HM opened her address with just a few words of Irish, 'A Uachtarain, a chairde' roughly 'President, friends.'
As Dub 1850 said it was a hugely appreciated gesture. Great visit, pity security was so tight. Dublin was brought to a halt traffic wise for hours on end, almost no complaint. 99.999999% of the people wished her a great visit and were quite content to be a bit discommoded. Sadly a protest by about 30 hooligans got too much media attention, ironically they were wearing Liverpool and Manchester United football jerseys ::)

Rs
K.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Handwriting Gaelic to English please
« on: Thursday 19 May 11 18:59 BST (UK)  »
I did hear a native Irish speaker could converse fluently with a native Scots speaker though there are some differences in the endings and some basic words. They have a common structure and sound shape. Interestingly I met a Welsh speaker in the 70's who learnt English in the Royal Navy and on a courtesy visit to a French warship found he had no difficulty in having a fluent conversation with the Breton sailors in both their native languages; Welsh and Breton. They were both much surprised.

Not sure that I fully agree on the Irish / Scots bit. The accent is very different, for a native Irish Gaelic speaker it is easier to understand written Scots Gaelic (SG) than the spoken version. Donegal Irish (NW Ireland) is closer to SG than any of the other Irish dialects. Anyway, the Scots are just an Irish tribe that left 15 or so centuries ago (Scotus= Irish in Middle Ages e.g. Johannes Duns Scotus Eriugena ;) )
Breton and Cornish are closer than Breton and Welsh, Manx fits in also, but all, including Gaelic, share roots e.g. a river is  abhann  in Irish, abona in Old English, aven in Breton, awin in Manx.
My father was a fluent Irish speaker and years ago at a funeral in the Hebrides (Barra) had difficulty in conversing in Gaelic with an old man there. He did say that the guy had no teeth was not a help!
K.

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Kerry / Re: Whats the meaning of this Irish Townland
« on: Thursday 19 May 11 12:54 BST (UK)  »
Possibly Cill mhic Ciaran? (Church of the son of Kieran) - there is a Killvickeran near Ballinskelligs...

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