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Hello - been a while since I've been on here.

I am trying to help a friend look into past residents of the cottage she has just purchased at 111 Bury Road, Shillington - Shillington is apparently split into Hertfordshire and Bedfordshire and her cottage is on the Hitchin, Hertfordshire side.

I a coming up with nothing for 111 and wondered if the row of cottages she lives in at that address used to go by another name.

I found an old map from 1882 which shows the cottages but no road name although it does look like the cottages are part of the land belonging to Shitlington Bury Farm.  Any ideas where I can start looking or does anyone have any local knowledge that I can base my research on.  I believe the cottages used to be farmhand cottages and therefore possibly the occupants were tenants of the farmer, but as yet, I have no names I can go on.

Bit of a long shot with little information, but if anyone can help, I would be grateful.

Many thanks

Jan

Once again I have been asked to help a friend with their family tree and discover this unusual name (my previous forays into Polish/Ukranian were for Shemensky and Jaroschewsky).

Anyway - I have found Jacob and his family, Cimpera, Marks, Annie, Sadie and Barnett on the 1911 Census living in St George in the East, in London under the name Jancovitch.  Now from an old handwritten family tree I have been given, Jacob's name remains the same but Cimpera is written as Zipporah.  Marks is also known as Max or on Ancestry, Marco.  Annie remains the same and married Louis Cymberg.  Sadie is also known as Saran and Barnet isn't on the tree.  Also on the 1911 is a male child listed as Morris Srogile aged 20 and shown as Sister's Son.  That is probably Jacob's sister, but which one.  There was Anne HYMOVITCH, Sarah HYMOVITCH and Blooma HYMOVITCH who married a Morris HILLEL, so it could be Blooma's child and the son named after the father.  However, the surname is different and the family story goes that when Jacob arrived in the UK around new year 1901, when asked his name, he spoke quickly and if you say Jacob Hymovitch quickly it could be mistaken for Jankovitch or Yankovitch.  Very complicated.  Cimpera/Zipporah's maiden name was ZAMUSCH.

I have found a couple of entries for Marks/Max and his wife Annie (SHAPIRO), but I'm not having any luck with the others.  Anne Hymovitch became HAYMAN.  Sarah married Jack Kershberg, a brother Hyman Hymovitch became HARMAN and marrried Sarah Cinnamon and then there was Blooma and her husband Morris.  Unfortunately the handwritten tree I was given has only names and no dates and so I can only assume it was from someone's memory that this tree was put together.

Back to Jacob and Cimpera/Zipporah - both were born in Poland, Russia according the the 1911 census and were both Russian by parentage and it's here I am stuck and don't know where to go.  Can anyone help?

Other clues on the handwritten tree include Jacob's parents as Tsv(r)i Yankovitch and Bina. and it looks like Tsv(r)i' father was Yehuda ben Tov HYMOVITCH.

If there is anyone out there who can help me unravel this, I would be grateful.  I am a member on Ancestry so if you could point me in the right direction and I am also a member of Jewishgen, although a lot of their records also appear on Ancestry now.

I would love to find records for Jacob, Tsv(r)i and Yehuda ben Tov but recognise that I do need help.

Looking forward to your guidance and assistance.

Many thanks.
Jan xx

Thanks Max D.  Will pass it on.

I've found three Monteil men in the same village in PagesBlanches and have also found the father and what looks like two brothers on the Holocaust Survivors and Victims list (great website).   My friend has also contacted the local Mairie to see if they can help get the letters back to the family.

Best wishes

Jan

Hi Sarah, Lovely to hear from you.

I read your reply with great amusement as you have uncle Fred down to a T.  Always the mischief maker, always the eccentric and always such a lovely man of which I have very fond memories.  I can indeed imagine him running your grandma ragged as he was always full of beans and bus tickets (as he used to say).   He was very inventive to - used to drive auntie Rosie mad with all his gadgets and inventions, but she would never have been without him.

I would love to stay in touch and hear more of your memories of Fred.

Best wishes

Jan xxx

Hi Ruth52

It's been a while since I looked at this family, but yes please, if you have information on John Nelson Crosbie, I would love to see it.  I have only found 11 children from his marriage to Elizabeth Montgomery and that he may have had a sister  called Margaret.  His parents may have been James and Albah, but that is all I have.

I am researching this family for a friend and it would be nice to be able to give her some more information.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Jan