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Canada Lookup Request / Re: Henry Octavious Atkinson
« on: Thursday 20 February 14 15:54 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you PB, for those useful links.  I've studied the 'rules' & can't say how I 'fit'.  I am inclined to think I had better accompany my request with a letter of explanation & some proof of my relationship!

I am interested in the cert. as it may state how he died (though I am not certain about that in 1943, as it says  it contains his SS no., place & date of death.  My interest is not only genealogical - as all living descendants are outside Canada & know nothing much about him, it could be useful information about any inherited medical problems.

I have been attempting to learn, for over 10 years, something about his life in Canada between 1917 when he married my grandmother & 1943 when he died. 

Had a small victory last evening - by perseverance or maybe pure chance, I discovered through a link on Cindi's list, the cemetery where he was buried & have sent by email for a transcript of the record.

I have attempted to glean info from Canadian bureaucracy before, but never say die, perhaps I will get lucky now with that death cert!.

Thank you again for your interest & assistance.

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Canada Lookup Request / Henry Octavious Atkinson
« on: Tuesday 18 February 14 00:24 GMT (UK)  »
I know from a court document that my grandfather Henry Octavious Atkinson born England in 1877 died on 11 March 1943 in Montreal.  I would like to have sight of his death certificate, but have been unable to trace any record of this.  He was not a religious man, so suspect it would not appear in church records, as he may well have been cremated; anyway this would not tell me how he died.  He had no next of kin in Canada - hence the court hearing to settle his affairs & pay the undertaker.

As his death is now in excess of 70 years ago, would I be able to obtain this document from the Quebec authorities please?  I think I have the relevant address from the BMS2000 site.  And please would they be likely to respond to a letter in English?

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Berkshire Completed Look ups / Re: Hawkins in Kintbury
« on: Thursday 23 January 14 21:54 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Chris

Thank you for the information where to find the Kintbury Church records, it's good to know where they are, although it is doubtful I could get there myself!

I am very grateful too for the list of relevant records you have extracted for me - more for me to investigate.  I was really getting my teeth into investigating census etc. on the info you gave me last time when another researcher enlisted my help with her tree, so have yet to complete analysing the Hawkins clan results! ::)  Not that I am complaining: whilst original contact was on the margins of my research, it is good to aid another as many, including you, have assisted me.  It restores one's faith in human nature when people give so much of their time to help others.

I am now in the position of knowing far more about the Hawkins Kintbury family, after many years of fruitless searching.

Very many thanks

Margaret

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Berkshire Completed Look ups / Re: Hawkins in Kintbury
« on: Saturday 18 January 14 17:23 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Chris for the list of baptisms, which gives me something to work on.  The census & burial info is also immensely helpful.

Both the brothers married into Pike family/families in Ramsbury in the early 1830s; George's first two children were born in Wiltshire but the third born in 1835 was born in Kintbury  which could add to the supposition the family lived both in Ramsbury & Kintbury.

He later lived in Barnet in Herts, Camberwell, Peckham, near Rouen in Normandy, near Andover Hampshire & finally Lewisham in Kent - no doubt moving from one brickworks to another, wherever building development led to a demand for bricks!

One last request if possible please.  Do your Kintbury PR go back as far as the 1700s?  IGI gave me William Hawkins baptism 20 October 1776, (parents Thomas & Ann) & the  marriage of William Hawkins & Elizabeth Amey Harris on 24 October 1801.  If you have these records, I would be grateful if you would please check my IGI info & also the marriage of Thomas Hawkins & Ann sometime presumably prior to 1776.  And maybe Thomas baptism?

Thank you once again for your invaluable assistance.

Margaret

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Berkshire Completed Look ups / Re: Hawkins in Kintbury
« on: Friday 17 January 14 21:07 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: candrjm on Friday 03 January 14 15:10 GMT (UK)
Hi snikwahrm,

 
Quote from: snikwahrm on Wednesday 23 October 13 20:27 BST (UK)
I can trace my Hawkins family back to George, a brick maker born about 1812 in Kintbury; his brother Thomas who also became a brick maker was born about 1809 Kintbury; their father Thomas was with his son Thomas in the 1841 census, shown as age 70 born Berkshire. 

I believe 1841 census doesn't usually state the relationship between people, how sure are you that Thomas & George's father was Thomas?

Kintbury parish church records have these two baptisms:

24th July 1808 Thomas son of John & Elizabeth Amey Hawkins

26th August 1810 George son of John & Elizabeth Amey Hawkins


There were also other children of this couple in the baptism register but they appear to be the only Hawkins couple having children baptised in Kintbury around this time (1801-1815)


Chris

Quote from: ribbo39 on Saturday 21 December 13 22:39 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I realise your posting is about 2 months old and with no response so far, but have you looked on Family Search (IGI)  for your Thomas Hawkins marriage?

There is a Thomas Hawkins marrying a Sarah Ayers on 12-4-1794 in Ramsbury, Wilts.   Could this be
the parents and are there other children born to them before they turned up in Kintbury?


Alan

Thank you for your reply Alan.  I have since discovered I was probably in error identifying the brother's father as Thomas.  Family Search is immensely helpful in the absence of access to PR & once I discounted my 'evidence' about Thomas, did lead me in the right direction as Chris has proved.

Thank you for your interest

Margaret

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Berkshire Completed Look ups / Re: Hawkins in Kintbury
« on: Friday 17 January 14 20:56 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Chris for your response.  And I believe the christening records you found are correct!  After posting my query on this site, I set about researching all the children in census & found one of George's daughters, born in France living with her uncle Thomas.  A further study of the 1841 census indicates I was probably incorrect about the Thomas I found with a Thomas I presumed was his father.

After a thorough study in LDS, my notes on George are: Without reference to parish records, it is not possible to determine his parentage.  However, there is a John Hawkins shown in the Kintbury pages of the 1841 Census; he was shown as age 65, born 'in county' as was his wife Elizabeth age 62.  Charles Hawkins age 17, born 'out of county' is with the couple.  A christening is shown in IGI for John Hawkins on 20 October 1776, at Kintbury, Berkshire, parents Thomas & Ann.  There is a marriage recorded in IGI between John Hawkins & Elizabeth Amey Harris in Kintbury on 24 October 1801.

John was the name of George's first son & the names George, Thomas & John continued through several generations.

Thank you so very much for looking up the PR records of the two brothers; I note you say there were other christenings to this couple & would be most grateful for a list of these to aid my research of the family.

Aren't I lucky John & Elizabeth were the only Hawkins couple having children at the time! Ramsbury, Wilts where the brother's wives were born has numerous Hawkins families!

Very many thanks for your interest

Margaret

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Berkshire Completed Look ups / Hawkins in Kintbury
« on: Wednesday 23 October 13 20:27 BST (UK)  »
I can trace my Hawkins family back to George, a brick maker born about 1812 in Kintbury; his brother Thomas who also became a brick maker was born about 1809 Kintbury; their father Thomas was with his son Thomas in the 1841 census, shown as age 70 born Berkshire.  Both George & Thomas junior married girls from Ramsbury Wiltshire.

There are several other Hawkins in census in Fawley, Kintbury Eagle & a William Hawkins was involved in the Kintbury riots & was transported.

Does anyone have access to Kintbury or close parish records for this period please?  George has an interesting life history & I would really appreciate any help in learning more about his origins. 

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Wiltshire Lookup Requests / Re: Chamberlain/Chamberlin/of Chilton Wilts
« on: Monday 12 March 12 17:44 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for your input, West.  I did find this record in LDS IGI, but it was a member submission.  Do you have access to the Chilton PR?  Richard consistently stated at census that he was born Chilton, but I do realise, of course, it is possible he was living in Berkshire at the time of his marriage, or, at that period of history, he did not know where he was born, only where he had lived within his memory.  It looks as though extended family Chamberlain lived in nearby Ramsbury, Berks.

I believe Chilton Foliat PR do exist for the period, but it appears they have yet to be transcribed.  I can only hope that one day either someone does transcribe these records or some kind soul will look up Richard's marriage, prior to 1816 & the christenings of his 4 sons, at the Wiltshire public records office.

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Wiltshire Lookup Requests / CHAMBERLAIN/CHAMBERLIN/of Chilton Wilts
« on: Thursday 01 March 12 00:02 GMT (UK)  »
Hello

I have 4 sons, born Chilton, Wilts, of Richard Chamberlain born Chilton C1789, Chilton.  From census, they are John C1816, James C1821, Henry C1823 & my main interest William C1826.  Richard, a shepherd, was a widower in 1841, so I have no idea who was his wife.  I am assuming he married in Chilton Foliat & his sons were christened there.  I would be most grateful for any information available please in parish records.  Some descendants were known as Chamberlain, but my branch seem to have adopted Chamberlin, whilst later PR in London (where the family gravitated) show Chamberlayne in some cases.  ::)


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