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The children were all baptised before the Primitive Methodist chapel was built in Pinchbeck.

"The first Pinchbeck West Primitive Methodist chapel in Northgate dates from 1843/5  and was known as the Hosannah Primitive Methodist Chapel."

But their Baptism records are of the Primitive Methodists - eg Sarah Ann on 18 Nov 1836.

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Lincolnshire / Re: Rebecca Cordley of Weston/Pinchbeck, nr Spalding
« on: Tuesday 09 September 25 20:01 BST (UK)  »
Right children, I have another two.  But those only give Rebecca as the name.  (no Jane)

Perhaps they converted to Methodism after 1844 and she gave herself another name, or she had a nickname?

The histories I read were perhaps written decades later...  family tales often are a little different from the truth, as we all know.

Thanks


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Lincolnshire / Re: Rebecca Cordley of Weston/Pinchbeck, nr Spalding
« on: Tuesday 09 September 25 19:02 BST (UK)  »
and also: 

https://www.myprimitivemethodists.org.uk/content/people-2/primitive_methodist_ministers/c-2/henry-cole

Cole, Henry (1825-1891)

Primitive Methodist Magazine 1878

Early years
Henry was born on 30 May 1825 at Pinchbeck Fen, Lincolnshire to parents Thomas Cole and Rebecca Jane Cordley. He was baptised on 1 June 1825 at Pinchbeck. His parents were both Primitive Methodists.


But still no SOURCE ???

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Lincolnshire / Re: Rebecca Cordley of Weston/Pinchbeck, nr Spalding
« on: Tuesday 09 September 25 18:52 BST (UK)  »
I have made a record of this, allegedly transcribed by one of the COLE family:
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Thomas was born on 4th July, 1828 in Pinchbeck, Lincolnshire, England, the son of Thomas Cole and Rebecca Jane Cordley. In the 1851 Census, Thomas was a servant in the household of Robert Allen, a farmer with 130 acres.

In September, 1852 Thomas married Ann Harrison and they added eleven children to the family: Sarah Ann born 26th July 1853, Thomas born 14th November, 1855, William born 25th April 1857, Eliza Ann Jane born 16th January 1859, James born 1861, George born 11th September 1862,  Joseph born 11th September 1864, Mary Jane born 10th August 1866, Amos born 10th August 1868, Harrison born 16th February 1871 and Emma born 13th July 1873. All the children were born in Australia.

In January 1853, Thomas and Ann, along with Thomas' brothers, Robert and William and their wives, left England on board "Harriett", arriving in Sydney on 22nd March, 1853. In the shipping records, Thomas was a 24 year old farm labourer who could read and write. His religion was given as Primitive Methodist. They paid 2 pounds fpr the trip to Australia.

After disembarking, Thomas spent a week looking for accommodation and work. Initially he found a place for 10 shillings per week but later he found a room for himself and Ann. By 24th April he obtained a full week's work paying 2 pound 5 shillings. In August 1853 they were living at Campbell Street, Sydney and Thomas was working as a labourer.

By April 1857 they were living at Monkeys Hill, Sallys Flat, between Sofala and Hill End, New South Wales. Initailly Thomas followed mining pursuits but directories for 1872 and 1881/82 lists him as an innkeeper on the Lower Turon River. He also appears to have leased land on Box Ridge Common in the name of himself and his sons. Here Thomas built a small house and pursued grazing. Thomas was associated with a number of mines in the Turondale area, namely the "Don Juan", "Shakespeare" and "Homeward Bound".

Noela Cole, a descendant of Thomas relates a story: The Turon River was in flood, so all the miners moved up the hill to work for the duration. Thomas Cole dug a mine shaft on Hammonds Hill and worked it for a fortnight, just starting to find colours of gold when the flood waters receded. Thomas was then approached by a miner, who said "Well, What is to be, Cole? Are you staying here or going back to the river?" Thomas decided to do back to the river. The next day the other miner found a nugget about the size of half a horseshoe in Thomas' shaft.

Several months later, Thomas found several more nuggets from a mine he had sunk. Realizing he and Ann needed basic provisions and fearful after the first incident, he decided to take the nuggets into Sofala and cash them for provisions. On the way home, the horse laden with supplies, Thomas was stopped at the foot of Monkey Hill by a depp masculine voice asking for a match. He recognised the voice as that of a bushranger who had cheated him out of his first goldmine. Thomas reached down and flung a stirrup iron at his assailant, then galloped home.

Thomas died in the Sofala hospital on 30th April, 1906 at the age of seventy eight. His cause of death was cardiac arrest and syncope plus retention of urine. He was buried in the Sofala cemetery on 2nd May. Thomas had 109 pounds, 14 shillings in the bank at the time of his death and dying intestate, his estate was shared between his wife and the children.

Information from "For God and Gold" by Margaret Cole

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Lincolnshire / Re: Rebecca Cordley of Weston/Pinchbeck, nr Spalding
« on: Tuesday 09 September 25 18:45 BST (UK)  »
And John Cordley m Elizabeth Seamour, is a son of William Cordley and Sarah Barns my ancestors, as I have suggested as parents for Ann Cordley in my original question. 

Ann = mother of Rebecca Jones Cordley.

Just found her as witness.  Will examine more closely.

Still leaves Jane as a query.

Thanks

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Lincolnshire / Re: Rebecca Cordley of Weston/Pinchbeck, nr Spalding
« on: Tuesday 09 September 25 17:18 BST (UK)  »
No I haven't, would that have given parents' names?

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Lincolnshire / Rebecca Cordley of Weston/Pinchbeck, nr Spalding
« on: Tuesday 09 September 25 17:07 BST (UK)  »
There has been a lot of discussion re Rebecca Cordley..  Particularly we have been looking for her parents.  I believe there are two separate Rebecca's and their details have got crossed.

So I thought I would add my views:

(Rebecca 1)  We know that a Rebecca Cordley married Thomas Cole on 4 Oct 1824 in Pinchbeck, and from censuses she was born about 1802/3.  It was some of their children who went to Australia to the Goldfields.  Rebecca died in Pinchbeck on 24 May 1878, widow of Thomas Cole, death registered by her niece Mary Jackson.  (I'd also like to identify Mary Jackson.)

On FindMyPast  there are records for a Rebecca Jane Cordley who seems to match her:
Rebecca Jane CORDLEY
Sosa : 113
Born in 1802 - Weston Hills, Pinchbeck, Lincolnshire, England
Baptized in 1802
Deceased May 24, 1878 (Friday) - Pinchbeck West, Lincolnshire, England, aged 76 years old.

This FindMyPast entry also gives her mother as Ann Cordley, but I cannot find any evidence for her mother being called Ann. 
Nor have I found any evidence of her baptism as Rebecca Jane.


(Rebecca 2) 
There is also Rebecca Jones Cordley, Mother's name Ann Cordley (no father) , baptised 03 Jan 1818 in Spalding.   In 1841 there is a Rebecca Cordley, age 20, Servant, living in the household of Ann Jones, farmer aged 75 and two sons in their 40s, in Gedney Hill.  She dies in 1849, aged 30 in Spalding, a servant.  Was Rebecca a child of one of the Jones sons, and lived with his family?

I think her mother, Ann, may have been the daughter of William Cordley and Sarah Barns (my ancestors) baptised in Fleet in 1786.
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So where has Rebecca Jane come from?  Who are her parents? Is she muddled with Rebecca Jones?

Sorry if this is confusing, I have been wrestling with Rebecca for quite a while...

Handing over to better minds than mine!!!




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Lincolnshire / Re: George Huckbody CORDLEY - 1831
« on: Sunday 07 September 25 18:07 BST (UK)  »
That would be useful info if I could get it!

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Lincolnshire / Re: George Huckbody CORDLEY - 1831
« on: Sunday 07 September 25 17:36 BST (UK)  »
Excellent question,   there could have been two James Huckbodys, perhaps father and son, cousins?

This was why I was hoping that the detail of the Removal Order might help explaining why young George, aged 8, was moved from  Pinchbeck to Weston in 1831, had his parents died?  or why?  where was he going to live?  Never had to look at Removal Orders before, so don't know what I might find.

Also why James Huckbody had been removed from Pinchbeck to Thirlby in 1830.  Was there any connection?

So confusing!

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