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Australia / Re: DONOVAN - CROWE help please
« on: Thursday 12 April 12 08:40 BST (UK)  »
Sorry - re: Mary Alice O'Connor marriage record - I have her marriage certificate to William Patrick Corcoran but cannot find any further marriages after her husband's death in 1875. Hoping someone can shed some light ..

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Australia / Re: DONOVAN - CROWE help please
« on: Thursday 12 April 12 08:38 BST (UK)  »
Hello again!

I am hoping someone may be able to assist as I continue in my efforts to smash through this frustrating brick wall.

I have returned to the marriage certificate of John Donovan and Mary Ann Crowe and note that the names given as witnesses are:

William Patrick Corcoran, Amanda Corcoran, Maggie Corcoran and Patrick Crowe.

William Patrick Corcoran was a hotelier who owned the Prince George Hotel in Swanston St, Melbourne.

I have discovered that his wife at the time of John Donovan and Mary Ann Crowe's marriage (1873) was Mary Alice O'Connor (parents Jeremiah O'Connor and Margaret Crowe), the cousin of Mary Ann Crowe.

Further investigation revealed that he had two previous wives and numerous children.

Wife #1 Rachel Fitzsimons (m 1843 in Dublin, residence given as Powerscourt). The couple had two boys, Francis John Corcoran and William Edward Corcoran in Ireland. I am assuming Rachel must have died but I haven't been able to find any death record for her in either Australia or Ireland.

To add to my problem, I am also having trouble finding an emigration record for William Patrick Corcoran and his sons!

Wife #2 Mary Ann Burns McGonigall (m Melbourne 1856). They had five children that I could find: Amanda, Margaret Ann Jane, Frances Mary, Adelaide Victoria Creed, and Annie Alex. The only child I can only find marriage details for is Frances Mary (who wed Charles Thomas Lake).

Mary Ann Burns McGonigall died in Melbourne in 1870.

Wife #3 Mary Alice O'Connor (m 1873). I can't seem to find any children to the couple - and it seems just two years later, in 1875, William Patrick Corcoran died.

I am hoping to discover what happened to Mary Alice O'Connor, who must have been left with these step children she would barely have known. I can't find a marriage record for her and am asking for assistance if anyone could help me.

I am hoping that if I can uncover any clues it could perhaps help me in my search for the elusive John Donovan!

I also notice on this board a lady who is researching Joanna Crowe who is one of Mary Ann Crowe's family members but so far have had no luck in making contact with her.

Thank you for taking the time to read this!


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Australia / Re: DONOVAN - CROWE help please
« on: Saturday 07 April 12 06:08 BST (UK)  »
Hi again Sue,

I also have John Donovan (born to Mary Butler and John Donovan) baptism record. Looks like witnesses were Mary Garey and a possible Thomas Flannery (hard to transcribe name)


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Australia / Re: DONOVAN - CROWE help please
« on: Saturday 07 April 12 06:03 BST (UK)  »
Hi Sue,

Yes I have pursued this line to a point ..

A long time ago I purchased Mary Butlers death certificate. It revealed that she died on Xmas Day 1855 at Brighton. Thomas Hallinan friend and witness to her death. Certificate says that she was married to John Donovan at Four Mile Wake in Waterford approx 1834. She had lived in Victoria for 14 years which gives an emigration year of approx 1841. Children given as James (13), John (12), Bridget (10), Ellen (8), Thomas (6) and Catherine (2).

I haven't chased this lead up for a few years - might see if I can uncover something. For memory I don't think I could find any record of the marriage in Ireland. I also seem to recall that one of the children was born in the Geelong or Mount Moriac area (where the Crowe family lived).

Any help appreciated - thank you so much I am very grateful.

Anna.


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Australia / Re: DONOVAN - CROWE help please
« on: Saturday 07 April 12 05:01 BST (UK)  »
Hi Sue,

The only other evidence I have (apart from the obituary) I believe is rather convincing. Thomas Donovan's will/probate records show that the witness on documentation was John Crowe, brother of Mary Ann Donovan (nee Crowe) who also lived in Egerton.

Does this help you at all? I am still searching!

Anna.

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Australia / Re: DONOVAN - CROWE help please
« on: Saturday 07 April 12 04:58 BST (UK)  »
Hi Jamjar - thanks for helping me ..

I think after Mary Ann's death her husband packed up and left Deniliquin and moved to Charters Towers to be with two of his sons who ran Nelia Ponds Station. The third son remained in Deniliquin .. perhaps there was some family rift with the brothers. I have never been able to find out.

I am wondering if the elusive parents of John Donovan were convicts .. I just can't work out why I cannot find them anywhere despite years of trying. Both John and his brother Thomas were born in Australia, so their parents must be buried somewhere - it's amazing that there is no record of theie existence (that I can find anyway!).

Hoping someone out there can assist me!

Anna.


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Australia / Re: DONOVAN - CROWE help please
« on: Friday 06 April 12 23:11 BST (UK)  »
Hi Merlin,

I purchased the marriage certificate of Corbett-Darcy to no avail. Michael Corbett m Margaret Darcy on Nov 20th 1857 in Duneed, Vic (near Geelong). She was a spinster according to the certificate and aged 22. There is some interesting further information though - and am wondering if it's worth following up.

Her parents names given as Mary Darcy (coincidence?) and Patrick Corbett. His parents are Patrick Darcy and Margaret Griffin.

The marriage entry beneath Michael Corbett and Margaret Darcy is for a Michael Darcy and a Margaret Griffin! Also from Duneed and her parents given as Michael Griffin and Mary McCarthy and his parents names as Thomas Darcy and Mary (looks like Mealy - hard to transcribe).

Were these people all related?!!

Am unsure how I can connect them to Donovan but am open to all suggestions!

I will keep hunting today and hoping some of you could assist me in trying to smash this brick wall.

Thanks so much for your efforts thus far!

Anna.

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Australia / Re: DONOVAN - CROWE help please
« on: Friday 06 April 12 09:10 BST (UK)  »
Hi Sue,

The obituary was for Mary Ann Donovan (nee Crowe) and was published in the Gordon Advertiser newspaper in 1914. It talked about Mary Ann Donovan being survived by her husband John Donovan, a brother of the late Thomas Donovan of Egerton. It also confirmed Mary Ann's parents John Crowe and Margaret (nee Hogan) who were formerly from the Ballan rd, near Egerton but died in Deniliquin.

Hope this helps.

Anna.

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Australia / DONOVAN - CROWE help please
« on: Friday 06 April 12 08:23 BST (UK)  »
I am hoping that someone may kindly be able to help me break through a long standing brick wall please.

Searching for the parents of John Donovan. According to his marriage certificate to Mary Ann Crowe of September 1873 (St Francis Church in Melbourne) it lists his parents as John Donovan and Mary Corbett. I have him aged 29 at the time of his marriage - so birth date approx 1844. The marriage certificate states that he was born in Brighton, Victoria, although I have never been able to find any evidence of this. His occupation was miner and his usual residence was Ballan.

John Donovan had a brother, whom I discovered only last year through an obituary notice. His name was Thomas Donovan. He too was a miner and lived in Mount Egerton, not far from Ballan. Thomas Donovan married Catherine Kay in Creswick, Victoria in 1885. His marriage certificate however states that his parents were John Donovan and Margaret Darcy. Thomas died in 1903 aged 53, His birth approx 1852 in Geelong. I have never been able to find any evidence of his birth or baptism either.

I have death certificates of both brothers but conflicting information has prevented my search continuing further. John Donovan died in Charters Towers, Queensland, in 1917 but his mother's name was mistakenly given as Margaret Hogan (his mother-IN-LAW). On Thomas Donovan's death certificate his mother is given as Margaret Dwyer.

Thomas Donovan's death certificate says that he was born in Geelong and had lived in Victoria for 34 years, NSW for 10 years, Queensland for 5 years and Western Australia for 2 years. I have never been able to find evidence of Thomas Donovan living in these states either and am hoping someone may be able to provide a census/voters record check?

If anyone would kindly help me try to get over this hurdle I would very much appreciate it.

Thanks so much,

Anna.





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