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I have a dilemma  concerning the number of John Hawkins that lived in the Brackley area of Northamptonshire in the early years of the 19th Century and how they all inter-relate.

From sketchy hand written notes from now dead family members indicates that one set of my Great-Great-Grandparents were a George and Jemima Hawkins (nee Moss).

I suspect that a George HAWKINS (and the one I am researching) was born in 1838.  On the FreeBMD website there is no actual record for a George, but there are 3 entries (1 in Q.1 and 2 in Q.2) for "MALE HAWKINS" and I suspect that one of these unnamed babies later becomes George Hawkins.  His father John Hawkins I suspect is one of the John Hawkins that seems to have been born between 1804 and 1087 and I have a hunch (but only a hunch) that it was the John Hawkins born in 1806.  A John Hawkins initially marries a Louisa Sturch (b.1815) in Oct 1837 and gives birth to George in 1838.  Louisa (Sturch) dies in 1840 and there are no further children of that marriage.

There are other John Hawkins' being born around the early years of the 19th Century in the Croughton and Brackley area of Northamptonshire and they of course have children.

George Hawkins marries a Jemima Moss on 4 Feb 1862 and they have 5 children (if the 1871 Census is accurate).  However, in the 1871 census both John Hawkins (b.1806) and Jemima Hawkins are both recorded as being widow/ers and living under the same roof in the Brackley area! Now I have no way of knowing whether the Widower John Hawkins is the father-in-law of the widow Jemima Hawkins or one of the other John Hawkins born at the early years of the 19th Century.  There is one final complication that in 1872 there was a marriage between a John Hawkins and a Jemima Hawkins again in the Croughton/Brackley area.

The question that I have is: Is Jemima both daughter in law and later wife of the same John Hawkins or does Jemima go on to marry one of the other John Hawkins living in the Brackley area?

Thanks for the lead.

Amy's mother was Christened Hephzibah Agnes Mary Baker before marrying Richard Parry.  It seems that in later life she dropped the first name and simply became Agnes Parry (until her death on 8 Nov 1913 when her full name was recorded).  It may be just a coincidence that the book with Agnes Barker's name in it did in fact belong to the Agnes Baker whose daughter has mysteriously disappeared, or perhaps Amy decided to adopt her mother's name.  Women at that time would not have been doctors, so it is more likely that it was used by a nurse.  Is the medical book, for example, linked to or associated with the 1914-18 war?  Would you be able to scan in the page from the book,  I know that Agnes' handwritting was not brilliant but it might be a lead.

Thanks for picking up this thread - I thought that it had gone cold.

Regards

Alan

Dear Lu,

Thanks for the information.

Regards

Alan

Hi Jackie,

There were two children born around about the same time in 1889 - Amy Parry in Fulham and an Amy Perry in the Birmingham/Walsall area.  I assume the person who died  in 1969 was the latter one.

Many thanks for taking time out to help.

Regards

Alan

Hi.

I seem to have come to a genealogical cul-de-sac in trying to find what happened to my Grand Aunt Amy Parry. Amy is shown in the 1911 census (living at 29 Barclay Rd, Fulham, London), but that seems to be the last record for her (except when she acted as a witness in 1914 to her sister’s wedding). I have a copy of her father's will (from 1924) which shows her other two siblings being the beneficiaries (Amy is not even mentioned).  After 1914 there are no apparent records for her in the UK (I have tried all manner of wild card searches).

Amy was one of 5 siblings, 2 of which died as children.  Her other sister (Emma Elizabeth) and brother (Edward Richard - my grandfather) are well documented

I have been puzzling over this for months on and off, hence my reason to see if colleagues in RootsChat forum had any ideas. The witnesses at her brother's wedding in 1918 were both fathers of the bride & groom so not much of a clue there.

I have no living relatives who can shed any light on this. She also had a sister Ellen who simply "disappeared" until I realised that the death was recorded in the name of Helen rather than Ellen (I think/hope).

As a point of interest her mother keeps on changing her name - Christened Hephzibah Agnes Mary Baker, her marriage certificate (which I have a copy of) simply refers to her as Agnes (the Hephzibah) is dropped. This remains the case until her death is recorded in 1913 when it is re-instated. Unfortunately, I do not have a copy of her will, but her husband's has been kept in the family.

Amy's profession on the 1911 UK census return is as a dressmaker, and I wondered whether she transferred her skills into nursing and went out in 1914-18 war. But this is pure speculation. She could have died, but if so, where is the record (could it have been a mis-spelling)? Or she could have emigrated or eloped hence the reason why she was not provided for in her father's will. My father would talk about his "Aunt Em" (Emma who married in 1914), but no reference was ever made to an Aunt Amy (I'm not sure that he even knew that she existed). Hence my conundrum. 

I have also considered that she may have joined a religious order (e.g. Carmelite nuns), it is not normally thought about when searching family history, but it must happen.  I’m not familiar with such matters only that they may change their name on entering the institution and when they die how are their details recorded? Do church records exist and if so who holds them?

For now I’m casting my net outside the UK to places where people emigrated to in the hope that is what she did.  Anybody who has any knowledge of Amy Parry or suggestions as to her fate would be very welcome.

Regards

Alan