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Thank you everyone for your help... I have looked over again at my family tree and everything was ok with my findings even including I believe Francis Charles Courtenay (Dawes)my 2nd great grandfather was the illegitimate son of Francis Burdett Courtenay (1811-1886) and he went on to marry Mary Ann Hill..and they had 3 children Francis Burdett, (my great grandfather??) Edward William and Minnie Elizabeth. Mary Ann  remarried again to Alfred morland Faulkner and had further children.But it all become confusing with the two 1911 census.One has him with his wife Elizabeth and his daughter Marie and her husband.But he has not signed it..The second has him with another wife and two small children and also his half brother Frederick Faulkner. Also the 1901 cenuse states that Elizabeth Courtenay was living alone with her two daughters.. Could it mean bigamy??  My grandmother was Lillian Elizabeth Courtenay.She always told me her father was a postman but never said much more about her family.

Hi , I would love it if you could again help in my quest. I know Francis Charles Courtenay (Dawes) married a Mary ann Hill and had 3 children Francis Burdett 1862, Edward William 1863 and Minnie ELizabeth 1866. Mary Ann then went on to re-marry a Alfred Morland Faulkner and it states she was a widow in 1874 she had already 2 children before then. So I know Francis Charles must have died somewhere between 1866 and 1872, but I can not find any details Would love some advice. Kind regards Toni Mason

Hi

Solved the problem 

If you check the census's it would seem Eliza Watts and Francis Burdett Courtenay had no children of their own, however Francis was a naughty boy 

Check the 1841 census

Great Marlborough Street

Eliza Courtney 26  (Francis's wife)
Jane        "        25   (     "    sister)
Francis    "      31  surgeon
William Ellis     64  Ind.                            not bn in county
Amelia Austin 36 F.S (female servant)    "     "         "
Joseph    "      45 M.S (man servant)       "     "         "
HANNAH DAWES 18  FEMALE SERVANT  "     "          "

Class: HO107; Piece: 735; Book: 1; Civil Parish: St James; Folio: 14; Page: 20; Line: 15

The entry on Anc* only lists Eliza, Jane and Francis but the image itself shows the rest of the household

claire

Thank you, this has made my day I will take a look at the 1841 census and prehaps find out more about Hannah Dawes, how very naughty of my 2nd Great Grandfather, He must of provided for his son because he also become a Surgeon and he went on to marry a lady who's father was also a surgeon.But I have looked and looked for any other info on Francis Charles Courtenay Dawes and his wife Mary ann nee hill. How do I go about looking for Death certificates etc I know they had 3 children including my Great Grandfather another Francis Burdett Courtenay Kind regards Toni

Hi,everyone and Thank you for your replies.My story starts with  Francis Burdett Courtenay who was a surgeon and who's parents were indeed Charles Barron Courtenay and Ann Bolton. He Married Eliza Watts in 1835 I believed this to be my ancestors. Then I found  Francis Charles Courtenay Dawes also a surgeon who I believed to be their son.But after some digging, found out He was Baptised in 1841 St.Marylebone with names of his parents being Francis Burdett Courtenay and Hannah Dawes. Father Surgeon After a hint from Ancestry.co.uk telling me there was the English Pallot with names of Dawes Dawes and Courtenay Courtenay so I thought they must of married and there must be another Francis Burdett Courtenay Surgeon who also lived in Hatton Gardan??? Also confused as to why he took his Mothers surname. On his marriage certificate in 1861 to Mary ann Hill his name was indeed Francis Charles Courtenay Dawes. I am So grateful for any more info and Help you can give me. Kind Regards Toni