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Kent Lookup Requests / Re: Hawkhurst Baptism Edgar Cogger 1869
« on: Thursday 04 August 11 18:34 BST (UK)  »
Nice one Daz ! ;)
But you do realise another Christmas Card to go on your list ?  :(

Steve

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Kent Lookup Requests / Re: Hawkhurst Baptism Edgar Cogger 1869
« on: Thursday 04 August 11 16:51 BST (UK)  »
Hi Bob,

No, unfortunately I have no interest in the Coggers at all !!!
Hopefully I was just helping out with someone asking for help.
I'm sure the person won't mind me mentioning it as there is Tree on the A* Site made public not private, containing Helen which I found today. Unfortunately it doesn't mention her Spouse or children.
If you have an interest in this family perhaps Daz will be in touch where you could hopefully pool resources ?

Good luck with it !

Steve

PS: I have enough headaches with my own Ancestors ! ;)

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Kent Lookup Requests / Re: Hawkhurst Baptism Edgar Cogger 1869
« on: Thursday 04 August 11 16:05 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks Bob although I'm sure Daz would be more grateful being his Ancestors.!
I see Helen C Nash appears in the 1861 Census, but under the 1851 as Ellen.
Can't find her birth under either spelling but her father James Nash married Sophia Parks, his father also James being married to Mary Drury.

Steve

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Kent Lookup Requests / Re: Hawkhurst Baptism Edgar Cogger 1869
« on: Monday 04 July 11 22:21 BST (UK)  »
I don't think I typed 1968......
Steve

Whoops!....just re-read my Post!   :-[  ::)

Steve

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Kent Lookup Requests / Re: Hawkhurst Baptism Edgar Cogger 1869
« on: Monday 04 July 11 21:48 BST (UK)  »
Hello Daz,

I don't think I typed 1968 but obviously meant 1868 and yes, there is a birth for a James Cogger Qtr Jul-Sept 1868, perhaps it doesn't help as it shows Cranbrook, Kent, SUSSEX !!! ???

This is going to be a tricky one,  we mostly all have examples of these and there could be many scenarios.
As you know, your 1869 Edgar birth could not possibly be the child of James and if Edgar is the son of Edwin then Helen didn't play the grieving Widow for long (if you don't mind me saying ?  :-[), it makes you wonder how James died?

Steve

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Kent Lookup Requests / Re: Hawkhurst Baptism Edgar Cogger 1869
« on: Sunday 03 July 11 21:56 BST (UK)  »
Agreed it's highly likely to be a transcription error most probably caused by the unusual name of Clyde.
I can imagine widow Helen Clyde Cogger taking Edgar along to be baptised alone and the entry being made accordingly (although I'm not sure whether the father should still have been named even if deceased, I think a father has to be present to be named as such?), as the parents names are entered in the same box (eg John AND Mary) I think the transcriber has read Clyde as a male hence father's name, not noticing the entry did NOT say Helen AND Clyde.
I've searched A's births for the period 1860 to 1870 for all births under Edgar (18) or Cogger (13) or Nash (23) in Cranbrook.
Nothing resembling which could be typo error's.
Helen & James wed in 1866 and assuming not a shotgun wedding ?, Edgar would have been born in 1866 to 1868 (allowing for a 9 month period from the year of James' death). The nearest result I could find was a birth for James Cogger in Cranbrook 1968.
This is the point at which the desperate "what if's" start......what if Helen changed her mind about the name between the formal registering of the birth and the Christening ???

Can I confirm you state Edgar's birth date 1869 but you assume you mean Christening?

Steve

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Kent Lookup Requests / Re: Hawkhurst Baptism Edgar Cogger 1869
« on: Sunday 03 July 11 17:04 BST (UK)  »
Can't find an entry on A*****y BDM but LDS has the following:
Edgar Cogger baptised Hawkhurst, Kent on 25 Apr 1869.
Father Clyde Cogger - Mother Helen

James Cogger buried: Hawkshurst 14 Jul 1867.

It might be worth searching the BDM under Helen's maiden name because the maths don't add up here unless a late baptism ?

Steve

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The Common Room / Re: Re-Christened ?
« on: Wednesday 29 June 11 08:08 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks for your reply Stan, your explanation is very clear, but of course as we have all experienced, the way our Ancestors were supposed to act & behave under the Law is one thing.......... but how some actually behaved was totally different !!!  ???

(If only they knew what problems they'd give us decades later?)  ::)

Steve

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The Common Room / Re-Christened ?
« on: Tuesday 28 June 11 10:48 BST (UK)  »
I've come across many examples where some of my Ancestors re-use names where a child has died and a later child is given the same name, but is it very common for a child to be Christened/Baptised twice perhaps if the parents later decide to change their name so have them re-Christened?
Today I have come across the 3rd separate incidence where I have found baptisms say for Elizabeth then later Elizabeth Ann or Annie Priscilla then later Harriett Annie Priscilla but I can't find the deaths for the first baptisms. I know not all deaths can be found but 3 separate occasions seems a bit high ?  ???
All the second Christenings have had names added so can't help thinking Aunt Mary insisted on having the child named after her so the parents went back to the Church to make it formal ?

Many thanks.....

Steve

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