Show Posts
1
Worcestershire / Re: cecil family
« on: Monday 19 March 12 22:54 GMT (UK) »
DaveC,
I don't know where these specific Cecil family branches were before 1627, but the family seems to have been in the area for a very long period.
In 1597, a Thomas Cicill, age 23, was a witness in a slander suit in the Aughton area. I think the record suggests that he may have been from Lastingham or Spaunton, but I can't tell for sure. [ http://www.hrionline.ac.uk/causepapers/causepaper.jsp?id=126636 ]
There is a Feet of Fines record for a Robert Cecill of Thorpe (Howden) dated 1408. [ http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/fines/abstracts/CP_25_1_279_151.shtml ]
In the 1300's there are several mentions of the family:
About 1360 through at least 1380, Thomas Cicill was the Vicar at Eastington; the King made at least one petition to the Pope (Innocent VI) for him. In 1369, he is recorded as "Thomas Cecill of Howden, clerk of the York Diocese." At that same time there is also mention of "William Cecill, clerk of Durham and York dioceses."
About 1315 there was a Roger Cysell at Burton-upon-Yore (near Marcham) and mention of the heirs of Richard Cysell at Ellington-with-Ellingstring (near Jervaulx).
So we can assume that the Cecil family has been in Yorkshire since at least the late 1200's and near the time surnames started to be used.
Given this long history, one might have expected William Cecil, Lord Burghley, to have traced his line to Yorkshire rather than down to the Wales area. His failure to do so has caused me no end of problems! For example, I know I am related to his family, but I don't know if I should look for my family origins in Yorkshire, as these records would suggest, or near the Welsh border regions where his genealogy would suggest. If you ever find a Cecil who can properly trace his line back to Yorkshire in the 1500's, please let me know; it would certainly help my efforts and probably sanity!
Dave
I don't know where these specific Cecil family branches were before 1627, but the family seems to have been in the area for a very long period.
In 1597, a Thomas Cicill, age 23, was a witness in a slander suit in the Aughton area. I think the record suggests that he may have been from Lastingham or Spaunton, but I can't tell for sure. [ http://www.hrionline.ac.uk/causepapers/causepaper.jsp?id=126636 ]
There is a Feet of Fines record for a Robert Cecill of Thorpe (Howden) dated 1408. [ http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/fines/abstracts/CP_25_1_279_151.shtml ]
In the 1300's there are several mentions of the family:
About 1360 through at least 1380, Thomas Cicill was the Vicar at Eastington; the King made at least one petition to the Pope (Innocent VI) for him. In 1369, he is recorded as "Thomas Cecill of Howden, clerk of the York Diocese." At that same time there is also mention of "William Cecill, clerk of Durham and York dioceses."
About 1315 there was a Roger Cysell at Burton-upon-Yore (near Marcham) and mention of the heirs of Richard Cysell at Ellington-with-Ellingstring (near Jervaulx).
So we can assume that the Cecil family has been in Yorkshire since at least the late 1200's and near the time surnames started to be used.
Given this long history, one might have expected William Cecil, Lord Burghley, to have traced his line to Yorkshire rather than down to the Wales area. His failure to do so has caused me no end of problems! For example, I know I am related to his family, but I don't know if I should look for my family origins in Yorkshire, as these records would suggest, or near the Welsh border regions where his genealogy would suggest. If you ever find a Cecil who can properly trace his line back to Yorkshire in the 1500's, please let me know; it would certainly help my efforts and probably sanity!
Dave