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Dublin / Re: Sean Lemass and the Bloody Sunday shootings
« on: Monday 07 February 11 20:53 GMT (UK)  »
When you say rubbish, do you mean that its inaccurate?

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Dublin / Re: Old IRA Dublin Brigade
« on: Saturday 05 February 11 13:36 GMT (UK)  »
Photo of Annual Reunion (1952) of C Coy 1st batt (old IRA) possible taken at the Customs House Dublin. Might be of interest to someone?

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Dublin / Re: Sean Lemass and the Bloody Sunday shootings
« on: Saturday 05 February 11 12:20 GMT (UK)  »
Found this information on another site, and thought it might be of some assistance.

On the morning of 21 Nov 1920, the IRA men involved stopped outside 119 Baggot Street, Matty MacDonald shared a joke with Jack Keating about the size of the hammer he had brought to force in the door. But the hammer was not needed. MacDonald went on:

We knocked at the front door a maid came along have a letter from the Castle will you deliver this note to Captain Bagelly a one legged man (his record shows the leg amputation and oddly we know that Hardy had a leg amputated as well) . The maid pointing and in we went in. We tapped at the door, opened it and walked in. There were 3 of us. Bagelly was in bed. Lemass, Jimmy and I. I was kind of scared. ‘Captain Bagelly ?’ ‘That’s my name.’ ‘ I suppose you know what we came for. We came for you.’ He was the Judge Advocate General. ‘ I suppose you’ve come for my guns’ he said. One of us, Jimmy Brennan hid it under the bed and he reached behind for it… Slugs and a little more was our reply. ‘Get up.’ He was in pyjamas. Lemass and Jimmy and I fired 2 in the head from the 3 guns. I heard maids screaming afterwards but I was told she was alright. On the ground floor was Jack Foley. A fellow came out with a towel in pyjamas for a bath and Jack stuck him up and he was balls naked. Thinking he was a lodger but he was another British army officer and how we didn’t know about him, we hadn’t any orders about him. MacDonald took a camera and whatever papers he could find. An examination of the body found that Captain G. T. Baggally had been shot on the top of the head, through the left eye and twice in the chest

Hansard reports. When the police arrived every occupant of the house had left, and no witness was available to describe the circumstances. Thomas Whelan was charged with the murder of Capt Baggallay, along with three others - one of whom was called Boyce.  A British Army officer, who occupied the room next to Baggally, identified Whelan as the man who covered him with a revolver as another man (who he identified as Boyce) shot Baggally.  Both Boyce and Whelan produced evidence that they were elsewhere during the shooting.  Boyce's evidence was accepted and he was acquitted along with the other two charged.  Even though Whelan had five witnesses (including a priest stationed in Ringsend) who said he was at 9 o'clock mass in Ringsend church at the time of the shootings, he was still found guilty.  (Whelan was a member of A Company, 3rd Battalion, Dublin Brigade, IRA.) 

5 men were charged with the murder but only Thomas Whelan was found guilty and hanged.


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Dublin / Re: Custom House Burning / John Wilson
« on: Saturday 29 January 11 18:10 GMT (UK)  »
Photos of prisoners reposted, showing who frank brennan is.
I have some other photos of prisoners in kilmainham that I will post up when I get them scanned, I also have photos of Frank Brennan revisiting Kilmainham. His Older brother Jimmy was also a prisoner there.
There is some mention of Jimmy in another thread here, in connection with his role in the dublin active service unit at the time of "the squad".

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Dublin / Re: Custom House Burning / John Wilson
« on: Saturday 29 January 11 17:50 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,
I was wondering if anyone could tell me more about a Frank Brennan who was in Kilmainham, apparently as a result of the Customs House fire.  In some of the Kilmainham autograph books there are a couple of little verses signed by Frank Brennan:

The reason we're here, is on the Customs House fire
When we were pinched together
We are doing our time in Cell twenty-nine
"Hard Luck" its such lovely weather
Frank Brennan & Frank Carberry
(6 July 1921)

On another autograph Frank Brennan and Frank Carberry signed it "the two Franks" and "the two inseparables". There is another attributed to Frank Brennan:
 
Now when you leave here
I trust you will think
Of the friends in Kilmainham you've made
And when in a "pub" the toast you should drink
Is, Good Health to the boys of the "Ould Fire Brigade"
 
Kilmainham sent me a photo of a group of prisoners that had been donated by Frank Carberry's son, and it had Frank Carberry marked, and sitting next to Frank Carberry is a man who is the spitting image of our Frank Brennan!!

So is there a list of persons arrested over the Customs House fire and is there a Frank Brennan on it? Frank was from the North Road, Finglas.

Would anyone know more about Frank Carberry either?
I'm new to this site, so dont really know the ins and outs of the protocol for replying to posts, however...., Frank Brennan was my grandfather and was indeed in kilmainham for his participation in the Custom House Fire.
The autograph books were kept by him after his release and later donated to kilmainham museum by my family. Several of these books were donated and are on display in kilmainham, some have little sketches in them.
He is in the photographs of the prisoners, I will try to identify him in them and repost if that is alright with the original poster.

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