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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Alan Carr b1931
« on: Today at 04:20 »
Quote from: Kay99 on Monday 01 September 25 14:21 BST (UK)
This tree suggests that Alan remarried after his split with Kathleen     

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tyz/

Many thanks Kay99, this proved the best clue and the correct one. I have been in touch with the owner who is a cousin of my friend, and who has supplied the photo originally asked for.

So this satisfactorily concludes the search and my hearty thanks to everyone for their contribution.

Ratty2

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Alan Carr b1931
« on: Friday 05 September 25 06:26 BST (UK)  »
Have not yet found the divorce, but I have found Alan's 2nd marriage was 1st Qtr 1962 to Marjorie Vernon (Vol 10e p620).

The link you gave to the Ancestry tree works well and is helpful.

No image of Alan as yet  :'(
No mention of his death in Wales newspapers.

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Alan Carr b1931
« on: Wednesday 03 September 25 07:39 BST (UK)  »
Yes, thank you all for your patience and careful checking. My apologies for persisting with the error.

You are quite correct that the Alan we seek is not the Alan T(homas) who married Brenda.

I'll go through these suggestions and will get back to you. Regrettably the BC of 1931 will take about six weeks to reach me. Meanwhile I am following up the possible current connections Kay99 mentioned - the grave flowers and the family tree.

Allan and Kathleen divorced at some date, and both also remarried. Does GRO keep divorce records and how do I reach them?

Stay tuned
Thanks again
Ratty

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Alan Carr b1931
« on: Tuesday 02 September 25 06:58 BST (UK)  »
Having consulted with my friend again, I can assure you that Al(l)an Carr is her father to his first wife Kathleen Redfearn. They divorced and he remarried to Brenda Renshaw (don't know when).

My friend's mother Kathleen Redfearn also remarried to become Kathleen Battle (date unknown).

The Evening News item (undated) of Alan Carr's death 25 Dec 1981 lists all the children from his marriage to Brenda Renshaw.

We're  looking for confirmation of his death in Dec 1981.
We are also looking for a photo of him - any ideas?

One sister of my friend, Leslie Florence (b1955) died and is found on the Redfearn grave. She is a daughter we think of Allan Carr b1932. All in Gorton, not anywhere else - not Wales.

We suspect the grave of Alan Carr died 1996 is a son of Allan Carr b1932.

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Alan Carr b1931
« on: Monday 01 September 25 08:29 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks for all these contributions.

"I feel I should mention that it's not possible to get a PDF of Alan Carrs birth in 1932 - it's certificate only" - yes, indeed. I've ordered a copy today but it will be about six weeks before it reaches me.

I consulted my friend who agrees with the Littler connection. I think we should concentrate on that link and ignore the Allan Thomas person.

Re: " What is known about the circumstances of the death of Alan who married Kathleen, and about her death?  Perhaps they emigrated, perhaps he is still alive aged 93." No migration apart from my friend who is a daughter to Allan named Beverley. Her father, Allan, died from lung cancer and is therfore most certainly no longer living.

I may be able to check out the Kathleen (Redfearn) Battle reference tomorrow.

Re: Ladyhawk, "What was his father James occupation?" = Park Keeper (1954 MC) and the 1938 Census adds he worked with the Municiple Parks department.

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Alan Carr b1931
« on: Sunday 31 August 25 11:21 BST (UK)  »
Alan Carr married Kathleen Redfearn in 1954, but at some other date he also had a wife named Brenda.
With Brenda he had the following children (Evening Post notice for 1982?)
Alan, Graham, David
daughters: Debbie, Angela, Denise, Diane.
As these are most likely living, I have no wish to trace them as that infringes Rootschat rules. I only list them here in order to better clarify the second wife and hence the Alan I am seeking (and not the Allan T)

Allan Carr had two sisters and a brother: Irene Carr, the second sister's name is not remembered, and Allan's brother was John.

The Death I found on FindMyPast was 35 Dec 1981, when he was aged 49, in the 4th Qtr at Salford, Vol 39 p783.

Cheers, Ratty

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Alan Carr b1931
« on: Saturday 30 August 25 08:46 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for all this help, very grateful

We know the marriage was 31 July 1954 to Kathleen, which means: CARR,  Allan    REDFEARN   Manchester    10e   855       Sep 1954. He signed his name with double LL in Allen.
and I would guess and then buy the GRO birth of Carr, Alan     Mar 1932 at Manchester South   
 but NOT the Allan T one.



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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Alan Carr b1931
« on: Saturday 30 August 25 05:50 BST (UK)  »
Alan Carr was born c1931 according to his MC to Kathleen Redfearn.
They married 31 Jul 1954 at Manchester R O. He was a labourer, and she a packer.
Alan died 25 Dec 1981 but I keep getting DC references to either A(double l)an Carr or Allan T Carr.

Please could you supply is real DReg for 1981?

His father was James Carr b 3 Sep 1899, and his mother either Emily Littler or Margaret.

With thanks
David

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Europe / Re: Inverno family Sicily
« on: Tuesday 19 August 25 20:24 BST (UK)  »
Cheers for that

Thanks very much

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