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Lancashire / Re: Locating record of a twin
« on: Tuesday 10 July 12 05:03 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: cath151 on Monday 09 July 12 08:19 BST (UK)
Hi
Lancashire bmds have the following 1909
Stead  William   Wardleworth Rochdale
Stead  Esther            "              "

There is another William born 1909 but he was born Spotland which in the 1911 is a different family.
I see they were in Wardleworth in 1911.
Thank you again.
Regards
Jean (jeastead)
Cathy

Hi Cathy, Thank you for your post - since receiving it and others on this subject I have had another look at BMD deaths in 1909 in Rochdale and have found a James Thomas Stead who died in the second quarter of 1909 and gives his age as 0 so I guess  I will have to send for the certificate to make sure. The family were living in Whitehall St Rochdale on the 1911 census.

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Lancashire / Re: Locating record of a twin
« on: Tuesday 10 July 12 03:05 BST (UK)  »
thank you all who have answered my post, you have given me more ideas as how to find the twin. Your help is much appreciated.
Regards
Jeastead

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Lancashire / Re: Locating record of a twin
« on: Tuesday 10 July 12 03:03 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Luzzu on Monday 09 July 12 22:55 BST (UK)
Just checked the references for the twins in my tree and PaulineJ, Pennines and Lizzie are right.  My twins have exactly the same reference, although I suppose it could be possible that one twin could be the last entry on a page, and the other twin the first entry on the next page.

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Esther Stead doesn't seem to be a still born baby. Her death is registered Q/E Sep 1909, Rochdale Reg Dist.

Esther isn't a still born baby as both her birth and death were registered.

Re the burials of stillborns, Cancan and I have done a lot of research in relation to the Manchester General Cemetery Transcription Project and there are many, many stillbirths recorded in the burial registers as she mentioned in her previous post.  In some cases the parents names are recorded as well as the address.  In one case, (which is unusual) a family have named their stillborn son and had his name inscribed on the gravestone although in the burial register he is not named.

I have just re-read the original post and Jeastead referred to a dead child being recorded on the 1911 census and wondered if this was in fact was William's twin.  If the twin was indeed a stillbirth and the census was completed correctly (which wasn't always the case), this child couldn't be the twin because the census question is "Children born alive in the present marriage".  Therefore a still born child shouldn't be recorded.   I was wondering if Jeastead should be looking for the birth and death of another sibling in addition to the twin she is already looking for.

Luzzu  :)

Hello Luzzu, I think from what other posts have said that you may be right, I should be looking for death of the twin and not a still birth.Thank you for your time and posts. Will try searching for a birth/death but how do you search when you don't have a christian name?
Regards
jeastead
Jeastead.

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Lancashire / Re: Locating record of a twin
« on: Tuesday 10 July 12 02:56 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Cancan on Monday 09 July 12 11:28 BST (UK)
Hi,

Having searched through the burial registers of Manchester General Cemetery (Non Conformist only) they do record still born burials.  In some cases they put the parents name(sometimes only the surname) and address.  As you would have an address form the birth certificate of the other child it might be traceable.

If you have an idea which Cemetery (if it was a cemetery - not sure about Crematoriums- though they possibly would keep the same kind of records) and they have burials registers it's worth a search, as you have said it was a twin. (Though when registering they may not have stated the child as a 'twin')

Do you have any information if the child was a still born or did he/she survive to a certain age?

Searching for the Burial Registers possibly at the Office or a library could help with your search. Or contacting a Crematorium if there was one in the town at that time?  They may each offer a search for a fee?  Or if you track them down search them for yourself or maybe someone with access would offer to do it for you?

Cancan :)

thank you for the post - I don't have any more information I am afraid. It just was shown on the 1911 census that a child had been born and died so I assumed that this was the twin. I live in Australia but have also asked Touchstones in Rochdale for assistance too.
Thanks again
Jean

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Lancashire / Re: Locating record of a twin
« on: Monday 09 July 12 06:41 BST (UK)  »
thanks for your quick reply. Sorry I forgot to put the date of my late fathers birth.
It was 13th March 1909 so I don't think your find would be a match.
Thank you anyway.
Jean

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Lancashire / Locating record of a twin
« on: Monday 09 July 12 03:33 BST (UK)  »
Does anyone know how I can find the death record of a twin.

My late father in law William Stead b 1909 always said he was a twin.  They lived in Whitehall Street Rochdale Lancashire in the 1911 census. There is reference to a child who had died and think that this may be the twin. There is no reference in the BMD records of another child being born at the same time as William.

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Ernest Stead. Rochdale
« on: Sunday 01 July 12 09:24 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: heatherjulie on Sunday 01 July 12 08:39 BST (UK)
Don't seem to be able to find James and Hannah Stead in 1881

Hello Heather, Thank you for posting the informatiion on the Stead family, I appreciate your help. I did have some of the census records but not others.
In 1881 James and Hannah were listed as Head not Stead.
Kind regards and thanks
Jean Stead


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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Ernest Stead. Rochdale
« on: Saturday 30 June 12 07:25 BST (UK)  »
Hello again Garstonite, Is there any way I can find out who the son is/was. Or the family.We live in Australia and thought we were the only Steads from Rochdale and we are hoping to trace other living members of the Stead clan.
Regards again
Jean

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Ernest Stead. Rochdale
« on: Saturday 30 June 12 07:22 BST (UK)  »
Hello Garstonite, I have only just found out that Ernest married Gladys in 1928 in Rochdale. I am sorry that I don't have any more information.
Regards
Jean

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