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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: BURBIDGE or BURBRIDGE + SMITH
« on: Wednesday 15 June 16 16:32 BST (UK)  »
Hi delicado  Apologies for not replying before, but I have been away and pre-occupied.  You seem to be making great progress, and what you suggest seems entirely likely.  I have not been doing any of this recently, and am out of touch.  I hope to have a bit of time in a week or two and will go through my notes to see if I can add anything.

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: 1891 & 1901 lookup please HALL
« on: Thursday 27 September 12 22:11 BST (UK)  »
Welcome to Rootschat.  To answer fairly briefly at this stage, your grandfather seems to have been Douglas Beecroft Hall (rather than Beechcroft).  His ancestors are fairly easily traceable from the census back to 1841.  His parents were John William Hall, b. Bury, Lancs 1848, d. ? 1898, cotton manufacturer, and Mary Beecroft, b. Hyde, Cheshire 1855, d. between the 1881 census and  1887 when her widower re-married.  She was the eldest daughter of Samuel Beecroft, a doctor in Hyde.

Is this enough to be going on with?

Ossibus

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Lancashire / Re: Lancashire surname interests
« on: Wednesday 16 May 12 10:20 BST (UK)  »
Since your posting is 6 years old, this is probably all known to you, if relevant.  However:

Clara Wrigley, b. June 1878 quarter, d. Sep 1925 quarter, m. Frederick Hamer June 1899 quarter.
In 1881 to 1911 censuses at various addresses in Bury, in each says b. Bury.  She had 4 older sisters and one younger brother.  Father was

James, b. 1844, d. Mar 1914 quarter, m. Cecilia, who seems to be Dawson, if so in Sep 1866 quarter in Manchester.   In censuses from 1851-1911, beginning in Tonge, later in Bury, in 1851 transcribed as Wildey, b. Tonge in 1851-71, thereafter b. Middleton.  They are living apart in last two censuses.  He had three older sisters.  His father

William, b. c1817 in Tonge, m. Martha possibly Massey on 2 June 1838 in Manchester Cathedral or Smethurst also in the cathedral on 20 Aug 1837.  In censuses 1841-61, living in March Row, Tonge; again Wildey in transcript for 1851.

This is all I have managed, uncertain as some of it is.  Perhaps these are the ones you are looking for.



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Northamptonshire Lookup Requests / Re: John BURBIDGE in Barnack
« on: Saturday 24 March 12 22:54 GMT (UK)  »
Richard, Thank you for this. I had come to a dead end.

The John Burbidge baptised in 1783 seems to have been buried in Barnack in 23 Aug 1788, but his parents John and Alice baptised another John on 4 Aug 1793.

This 1793 John must surely have been the widower who married Elizabeth Smith, spinster, on 17 Jan 1826, and also the butcher who was father of her son John Burbidge born on 9 Feb 1823.

The most likely previously deceased wife of the butcher seems to be the Ann buried on 6 Jan 1822, aged 32, and. also speculatively, she may have been the Ann Lumby who married a John Burbidge, whose mother is named as Alice, at Stamford on 3 Aug 1813.

John son of John and ELizabeth appears in the 1841 census as a Carpenter aged 18, living in Barnack but not with his parents; in 1851, still a carpenter, he is with his wife Jane (born in Stamford) and two sons in Spalding.  He had married Jane Shivers in Thorney in 1847, and the marriage certificate states that John's father was dead.

So it seems that the John Burbidge you discovered to have been buried on 14 Jan 1832 aged 39 must be the butcher.  Since the John Burbidge I am seeking was alive in 1861, you have found the final piece of the puzzle which convinces me that the Barnack butcher is not the man I am looking for.

If you are interested in these Burbidges I have a certain amount more information which I could pass on.  Meanwhile, I am very grateful for your help.






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Northamptonshire Lookup Requests / Re: Baptism in Welford lookup please
« on: Tuesday 07 June 11 16:55 BST (UK)  »
Thank you, Keziah2, for your efforts to find the elusive John Burbidge.  I have tried several variant spellings, but had not thought of Burridge.   I wonder if he was abroad, or just somehow missed the 1951 census.  You are quite right that the 1861 family was Pulford rather than Pidford; just another transcription error, I fear.

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Northamptonshire Lookup Requests / Re: Baptism in Welford lookup please
« on: Monday 06 June 11 11:43 BST (UK)  »
Thank you. mgeneas.  I think this could be my man; I suppose he could have been born in Welford and baptised in Long Buckby, or his family moved from there to Welford soon after and he assumed he had been born there.   

Basically I am looking for the parents of Elizabeth Burbidge Smith, born about 1820, who as a spinster married Henry Doughton Pulford at St James Westminster on 8 Nov 1842, father being named on the certificate as John Richards Burbidge and described as Esquire.

It has been suggested to me that he might have married a Smith widow with a daughter, but I suppose Elizabeth could also have been adopted or illegitimate.

There is an illegitimate Elizabeth Smith christened in Welford on 27 Dec 1818, father not named, mother was Mary Ann Smith.  I cannot find any further trace of the mother, but would be very grateful if you can.  But I expect it would be very hard to pin down paternity to John Burbidge.

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Northamptonshire Lookup Requests / Baptism in Welford lookup please
« on: Friday 20 May 11 14:58 BST (UK)  »
According to an entry in the 1861 census, John Burbridge (probably should be Burbidge), aged 75, was born In Welford; this would make his baptism presumably 1785 or 1786.

If anyone has access to these records I should be grateful for confirmation of this and any related information.

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Northamptonshire Lookup Requests / John BURBIDGE in Barnack
« on: Sunday 03 April 11 21:56 BST (UK)  »
If anyone has access to registers for Barnack I should be very grateful for help with the following:

According to IGI, John Burbidge married Elizabeth Smith at Barnack on 17 Jan or possibly 17 June 1826.  In particular I would like to know if she was a widow, if he was a widower, and if he had a middle name.

I think the same John Burbidge was christened at Barnack on 13 July 1783, and that his wife Elizabeth Burbidge was buried there on 8 Feb 1831, and would be very grateful for any further detail on these events.

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: BURBIDGE or BURBRIDGE + SMITH
« on: Wednesday 30 March 11 22:43 BST (UK)  »
Thanks again.  This seems likely to be the groom of the Barnack wedding.   But EBS's (step)father is clearly down in 1861 census as 75 and born in Welford, some way from Barnack and 2 or 3 years away from your new find.  Perhaps one could be born in one place and taken home for christening, and clearly numbers can go wrong. 

 

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