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Fascinating and some of the information fits in well. Helena and Richard seperated, when I do not know. Richards and Helenas offsprings Alice and John were both brought up by their grandparents in St Helens, 1911 census shows him residing with his grandparents aged 3. Helena continued to manage and own pubs in the Liverpool and New Brighton area well into the 1950's. They never divorced. Richard moved back to St Helens but when, I do not know. Whether Richard moved to Bagot St I do not know.
At this time I do not feel that Catherine Anders is part of the puzzle, but of course who knows what mysteries get thrown up. Richard was definetly back in St Helens by 1939, occupation down on sons wedding cert shows him working at glass works.
Many thanks for your hard work and input, it really is most appreciated. I hope you have a informative and enjoyable whilst in Liverpool, many thanks Ray

Hi, his wifes name was Helena Rose,   but his mothers name was Elizabeth and his father was also named Richard..., hope this helps

Wondering how, if possible to tie in  Richard Anders on the 1911 CENSUS living at 6 Low HiLL, Liverpool. He would have been of age for enlistment during WW1, but he was married with two children. Bar Manager [Coach an Horses] don't think this would have been reserved occupation. The  Medal roll shows a RICHARD ANDERS, LIVERPOOL REGT Sgt 5503 and Y+L R 39736   Roll 0?/2/102 B18, any thoughts on how to find a home address for Sgt Anders or family names etc. The above details taken from Ancestry, Thanks

Hi avm, yes it had crossed my mind about the marriage taking place outside of the area and wondered if, going by the Eileens surname  and the geographical area, Liverpool, if there was an Irish connection which would also help to explain the birth certificate difficulty.

Hi, I have been puzzling over the birthplace question and also the question of the marriage after the banns. Fascinating. Don't you love this hobby, thanks one an all for the input