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Fife / Re: Niven / Sinclair
« on: Tuesday 06 February 18 21:26 GMT (UK)  »
Hello cousin!!!

She lived with her Uncle and Auntie (her 'step' parents were the brother and sister respectively of her parents) as they had married late on in life and had no children of their own. If she hadn't lived with them - would she ever have married John Sinclair the ploughman? His father was gamekeeper to the Earl / Duke of Aberdeen who had given him land and property for his services to him. That was what John inherited. After Christina's Uncle / Stepfather passed away they went to Dundee and from there to Australia and bought the land in Sydney and built the houses etc... James Thomson and Jane McGregor are my Great great grandparents.... James Donald Thomson, their son and Christina's brother, is my Grandma's father. So you are my cousin. We met Ian Ward last year - he must also be your cousin. His Grandmother was Alexandrina, Christina and John Sinclair's daughter who went with them to Australia and married a Mr McIlree..... I have one photo of James D Thomson - unclear - and desperately wanted more. I have a Scottish songbook here gifted to 'Lexie' in 1925 from Sister Katie. Ian gave it to me as I organised a Thomson reunion in Scotland which he came to and made all my old aunties cry with joy... xx Hopefully we can meet up soon too. I have an extensive Thomson tree on Ancestry and my DNA is up there - with Ian's - so we know just how close we all are!! If you PM me I can give you links and more details. Bee xxx

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Fife / Re: Niven / Sinclair
« on: Monday 29 January 18 10:18 GMT (UK)  »
Catherine Young Sinclair (daughter of my Great Aunt Christina and her husband John SInclair) married Robert Niven born 1890 in Dundee - she was my Great Grandfathers niece. She inherited all of her aunt's belongings in 1947 - including possibly all the photos of my Great great Grandfathers family - none of which we have... would be good to try and track it down and share! The current owners of the family house in Dunkeld would also be keen to see them.

Bee

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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Harold Edwin Redpath and his new wife Kate Lillian Smith 1913
« on: Tuesday 21 June 16 20:28 BST (UK)  »
Jakpeter

Hello - if you are related to Harold them you are related to my husband's family.

We have seen many photos and letters of Harold and one of our relatives is going out to Thiepval in July to lay flowers in his memory. He is never forgotten and often spoken of.

Bee

 

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Argyllshire / Re: Tayvallich 1855 'census' by the Minister
« on: Saturday 09 January 16 11:30 GMT (UK)  »
Hellooo

I did the Ancestry.com test - I agree with you that west coast Scots probably have a good chance of having lots of crossover DNA with Ireland... but there does seem to be rather a lot in there! I'm definitely going to celebrate St Patrick's day now - with one of those funny Guinness hats!!! I wish more people did the DNA thing - and put their tree up too - it's really frustrating to get a high match with someone who hasn't linked it to anything!! I am now trying to track down Angus Grahame's daughter - she was in service in Greenock - where my Henry was born. Could she have known Harriet and tipped her off that Tayvallich was a good place to bring up a child - and that Angus and Bell would be happy to take on the child - as it would increase their chances of poor relief? (Henry Thomson snr's family in Govan had two children living with them in 1841 for which they received an allowance from the relatives so it wasn't uncommon - and I doubt if they were interested in taking on Henry Jnr - even though he was their grandson - as there would be no money in it??)

Oh well - here's hoping!

Bee

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Argyllshire / Re: Tayvallich 1855 'census' by the Minister
« on: Friday 08 January 16 21:24 GMT (UK)  »
Hello again - sorry for the delay in replying - we moved house in Feb 2014 and it's been mayhem ever since... my McGregors in Perthshire were from Little Dunkeld - I go back there at least once a year to visit the graveyard - it's right by the River Tay - which has flooded quite badly this week - so I'm going up at Easter to have a look :( I still haven't got to the bottom of the Tayvallich mob - I'm not even sure that Hariot McIntyre was related to the Grahames - I think that she dumped my G G Grandpa on them as Greenock was filthy and disease ridden... she must have had some family connection but I haven't found it yet. I suspect that Henry Thomson Snrs family were Thomas Thomson and his wife Mary Morrison from Downpatrick (my DNA has shown up 39% Irish - with not one relative so far to account for it!!) I did a lot of work for an Australian lady on her roots which I hoped would lead to her doing a DNA test which would have confirmed it - but she declined :( so back to square one. I did locate Henry Thomson Jnrs grave - it's huge - on the hills above Loch Sween in Kilcreggan - complete with Merchant Navy anchor. Paid for my Great Grandmas 3 siblings (she had died 6 years previously) - I am desperately trying to find their descendants to see if they have any more information - but it's very hard to get current / living people info. Even with Facebook!!! Hope to speak to you soon. Happy New Year!! Bee

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Somerset / Re: William Cleaves of Hornblotton
« on: Saturday 14 February 15 08:59 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Trish!!!

Thanks for all your help - that's amazing - poor old George - I've tracked down at least 14, maybe even 16, children and step children along the way and three wives - thank goodness he kept going as my direct descendant Martha was one of the last!!  Still haven't managed to find out where George aged 20 came from - I know that George Snr's father (also called George just to confuse things) moved to Birmingham, Warwickshire in 1816 where his last child Isaac was born, so maybe I have to snoop around there. He had a good life and ended up back in Beverley, Yorkshire and the wee terraced house is still there!!Ah well - will have to wait until this evening - it's Valentines day and we are off to a Motorcycle museum..... that goodness I've got a knitting and stitching fair to look forward to next month to get me through today!!!

Thanks again Trish

Regards.

Bee

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Somerset / Re: William Cleaves of Hornblotton
« on: Friday 13 February 15 20:34 GMT (UK)  »
Hello

Did William and Mary have a daughter also called Mary who married George Garbutt ( my 3 x Great Grandfather) in Hornblotton in 1837?

Regards.

Bee

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Argyllshire / Re: Tayvallich 1855 'census' by the Minister
« on: Monday 27 January 14 20:09 GMT (UK)  »
Mary - you are a genius! How amazing - we thought he had to have been abandoned. I'd love your help!! I think that there may be a chance that Mr Henry Thomson Snr was not of the religious persuasion or character that appeased the Minister in Tayvallich - or she was under the age of parental consent at the time of the wedding. The 1833 Greenock wedding certificate appears legitimate as is the first child's birth, called Mary in 1834. BUT there is no record of Mary beyond her birth and none of Henry Jnr until that time that the Minister chose to 'fiddle the accounts' as it were. You can plainly see the 1837 scored out in his records and 1840 substituted. However as Henry was 4 in 1841 it was a big stretch of the imagination to have him born in 1840... What on earth was going on? My only hope is that there are Merchant Seaman records which may uncover the truth about his Father. I think that Harriet was abandoned by Henry - or he died - and she re-invented herself elsewhere - was he dead by the time of Henry Jnrs birth? I think I found him in 1841 in digs with other Merchant Seaman - awaiting his ship one presumes....   Young Henry went on to Kilcreggan with my Great Great Grandmother.... Flora... who died in a famous Scottish architect's office in Glasgow in the early hours of the morning in 1907... another mystery we have yet to unravel. They don't make it easy these relatives of ours!! Many thanks again for your offer of help.  B x

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Argyllshire / Tayvallich 1855 'census' by the Minister
« on: Sunday 20 October 13 19:39 BST (UK)  »
Hello - I wondered if there are any Tayvallich amateur sleuths that fancied a bit of a challenge? My family came from Tayvallich in the early part of the 1800s. I need to try and find out why the local minister altered my 3xGreat Grandfathers Henry Thomson's birthdate in the 1855 'census' that he carried out, changed his place of birth and then declared him illegitimate!! I have his birth cert from Greenock and his parents marriage certificate and the 1841 census which substantiates the 1837 Greenock birthdate - but I cannot for the life of me find any trace of his mother Harriet McIntyre after 1841 when she was 28 living with a Bell and Angus Grahame. She married a Henry Thomson (b around 1813 in Govan - Merchant Navy who I believe was of Irish descent) in Greenock in 1833, had a daughter Mary in 1834 and Henry in 1837. They were living apart in 1841 - but they both disappear after this date and Bell declared Henry her grandson in 1851 census... Hope someone can shed light on this - it's driving me potty!

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