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Kent / Re: Margate Old Roads - Free old maps online
« on: Tuesday 11 January 11 21:57 GMT (UK)  »
Kent Land Information System
http://extranet7.kent.gov.uk/klis/

free online maps - very detailed - going way way back.  I used this for the map I attached above - above
you can get 1889's and earlier

East kent Archives Centre in Dover has tons of information about Margate and the people on Brewers Hill
http://www.kent.gov.uk/leisure_and_culture/archives_and_local_history/archive_and_local_history/east_kent_archives_centre.aspx

National Archives online gave me that information above by searching margate and brewery - it lists everything in the East Kent Archives Centre

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/Search/search_results.aspx?Page=1&QueryText=Margate+Brewery&SelectedDatabases=A2A|ARCHON|BOOKSHOP|CABPAPERS|DOCUMENTSONLINE|EROL|MOVINGHERE|NRA|NRALISTS|PREM19|RESEARCHGUIDES|E179|CATALOGUE|WEBSITE|TRAFALGAR&SearchType=Quick

Records go back to the 1500"s!!!

Cathy




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Kent / Re: Margate Old Roads - Brewhouse Hill (6 King Street)
« on: Tuesday 11 January 11 21:45 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Lizzie
Can you see the map that I posted in the message above when you click on it? I don't know how to put it in the message so it is an attachment - it labels the Brewery
 Just want to be sure it opens
I think your relative was living in a place and not on the street

There are scads of original materials in the East Kent Archives - open from Tues-Fridays 9-5 I think
If you're going there, why not see what they have -
the stuff is listed in the UK archives online

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Kent / Re: Margate Old Roads - Brewhouse Hill (6 King Street)
« on: Tuesday 11 January 11 21:31 GMT (UK)  »
Brewery labelled and shown on 1897-1900 map
You can see the buildings on the site

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Kent / Re: Margate Old Roads - Brewhouse Hill (6 King Street)
« on: Tuesday 11 January 11 20:59 GMT (UK)  »
okay thank you! I will try to use the satellite to view along Brewery Hill - that was one of my guesses as well.
good to know the house was there in 1851 tho


Thanks!!!

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Kent / Re: Margate Old Roads - Brewhouse Hill (6 King Street)
« on: Tuesday 11 January 11 20:43 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks - okay that makes sense too - if you have a map showing it I'd love to see it
I have spent a lot of time on those offical online uk ordinance and landmark maps - and at one time I was pretty sure that it had to be Fort Rd/Fort Hill Rd - just by the number brew houses there

Did you see the reference to Holey or Foley House on the Cobb's census listing that I attached -
What on earth is that?

lol

catherine

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Kent / Re: Margate Old Roads - Brewhouse Hill (6 King Street)
« on: Tuesday 11 January 11 20:32 GMT (UK)  »
Yes Fort Hill Road makes sense - again - how do you know this? Is there a source for this?

Thank you,

Catherine

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Kent / Re: Margate Old Roads - Brewhouse Hill (6 King Street)
« on: Tuesday 11 January 11 20:17 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you ! Can I ask how you know that? I am looking for a source to reference that.
I wondered if there was a connection as the listing for Cobb on Brewhouse Hill included a note written on top of the word "Brewhouse" saying Holey House (or maybe Foley House) Holey House is it misspelled? was it a Church House? or was there a family by that name -

I notice also that the Census goes along King Street then, at 6 King lists the Brewhouse Hill families and then returns to 7 King.  So was 6 King the street address? Were there flats or something along the Brewhouse Hill?
I have posted the census so that you can see the Holey House reference......

Any help understanding would certainly help.

Thanks for contacting me!

Catherine

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Kent / Re: Margate Old Roads - Brewhouse Hill (6 King Street)
« on: Tuesday 11 January 11 06:59 GMT (UK)  »
My great great grandmother Louisa Jarman and her mother, father and siblings are listed on the 1851 Census as living at  Brewhouse Hill. Brewhouse is written and "Hill" is written above that, for each family group- who are separately enumerated. The census goes from 1 to 6 King Street, then lists several different families living on Brewhouse Hill (including the Cobbs but not the 23 King Street Cobbs) and then the census goes on with 7 King Street etc.

Can anybody provide any explanation of Brewhouse Hill? The land there I think rises to Cobb's Brewery - and there was a Cobbs Lane and a Cobb's square

I'm thinking that maybe there were flats above and behind 6 King Street --- or that these people lived in rented rooms in the Brewhouse, that was on the hill.

I see nothing naming this place in Margate on any of the maps etc.

The only Brewhouse Hill street I can find is in Hertfordshire - not related.

Help would be appreciated,

Catherine

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Kent / Margate Old Roads - Brewhouse Hill (6 King Street)
« on: Tuesday 11 January 11 01:38 GMT (UK)  »
Hello
What can you tell me about Brewhouse Hill if anything?  My greatX2 grandmother Louisa Jarman lived at 9 Brewhouse Hill with her mother father and brothers and sisters. The family were e mployed. Most people listed on Brewhouse Hill (many addresses) were employed.
Thanks so much!

catherine Uffen

"1851 finds Mary as a pauper living in King St - Brewhouse hill aged 73"

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