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Devon Lookup Requests / Re: BURGOYNE Family of Plymouth (Ancestors of Cleopatra Cecilia Burgoyne, b. 1844)
« on: Saturday 08 January 11 06:15 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Rol,  I was looking at the FindMyPast website for parish buriels and did not find that entry.   That is one questioned answered but I now have another question.   Frederick was born 1814 according to the information Mrs Guthrigg sent us, b ut George was born 1814 and so was Sara Hardy.   Were they triplets, or were George and Sarah twins and Frederick born either before or after.   I was looking for Frederick's birth or baptism but so far no success.

Burg

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Devon Lookup Requests / Re: BURGOYNE Family of Plymouth (Ancestors of Cleopatra Cecilia Burgoyne, b. 1844)
« on: Friday 07 January 11 08:28 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Rol, Yes medals were not known to me but I did know that Erwin, Brother of Frederick William, was in the Navy and then in the Merchant Navy.   I did find him in the 1881 census living in Southampton with his wife Ann.   He had a son Charles, but as far as I know Ann was not his mother.   I think Erwin died in 1893 and Charles was born in 1864.

Burg

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Devon Lookup Requests / Re: BURGOYNE Family of Plymouth (Ancestors of Cleopatra Cecilia Burgoyne, b. 1844)
« on: Tuesday 04 January 11 21:42 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Grant,   I am interested to know where Erwin, brother of Frederick is when the 1841 census was taken.   The only Erwin I have found is Erwin son of Frederick, also who and when did he marry and his children.   Did he stay in England or did he immigrate somewhere.

Burg

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Devon Lookup Requests / Re: BURGOYNE Family of Plymouth (Ancestors of Cleopatra Cecilia Burgoyne, b. 1844)
« on: Tuesday 04 January 11 08:17 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Rol,  I was looking at some information I received from Devon Family History Society for Baptisms 1813 - 1839.   In it I found that William and Dorothy had a son Erwin born 07.04.1816 in Jubilee Street Plymouth Charles .   Also William and Grace had a son Erwin born 25.12.1835 Raleigh Street Plymouth  St Andrew.   The name Erwin must have  been a family name as Frederick and Elizabeth had a son Erwin, James and Elizabeth had a son James Erwin.   When I see the name Erwin I immediately think that it is a possible family member.

Burg

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Devon Lookup Requests / Re: BURGOYNE Family of Plymouth (Ancestors of Cleopatra Cecilia Burgoyne, b. 1844)
« on: Tuesday 04 January 11 00:18 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Rol.   In answer to your question, no I do not have baptism dates for either George or Frederick.   Only that Frederick was born 1814 in Plymouth Devon and as for George I am assuming that he is a brother of Frederick as he was a carpenter or Joiner like the rest of them.   Frederick was also a carpenter/joiner and it was stated in his probate that he was an acting Engineer in the Royal Engineer Department of Her Majesty's War Office and he was in Sierra Leone on the West Coast of Africa.   His wife is named as Mary Burgoyne of No. 73 Coburgh Street Plymouth widow.   

I have not been able to find a census on this family for 1851, however, when in Plymouth about 20 years ago I tried to look at the fiche of these census and it was impossible to read.   In the 1861 census, they are down as Mary Burgoine, William, Charles and Edward Burgoine and a niece Anna ( which I think is Hannah Burgoyne) this census address was Coburgh Street Plymouth.   Hannah later married George H Jenkins an artist and Landscape Artist and they lived in Plymouth.

The William referred to in the 1861 census is actually Frederick William my g grandfather.   In about 1992 we had a Mrs Guthrig of Plympton Plymouth do some research on our family and she was the one who found the birth date for Frederick and who his parents were.   I will look forther in my reams of paper to see if I have any information on George or any other members of the family for that matter.
Burg

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Devon Lookup Requests / Re: BURGOYNE Family of Plymouth (Ancestors of Cleopatra Cecilia Burgoyne, b. 1844)
« on: Monday 03 January 11 21:20 GMT (UK)  »
 :)I was interested in your posts on the Burgoyne family of Plymouth.   I am a descendant of the family of William Burgoyne and Dorothy Burgoyne nee Maddick.   They had 7 children that I have been able to find - James b 1808 in Kingsbridge, John b 1817 in Plymouth, Sarah Hardy b 1820 d 1824, William b 1807 Kingsbridge, Elizabeth Randell b 1812 Plymouth. George (father of Hannah Burgoyne) and Frederick b 1814 in Plymouth d 1863 in Sierra Leone Africa.   Frederick is my family line, he married Elizabeth Thomas in 1833 and they had two children, Frederick and Erwin.   Elizabeth died in abt. 1839 and Frederick married Mary Courtis/Curtis in 1840.   Sometime between 1841 and 1851 Frederick Jnr died and in 1843 Frederick William  was born  (my ggrandfather) they also had a daughter Mary Courtis who died in 1846 and twin sons Charles and Edward born 1847.   Sometime after 1861 Frederick William came to Australia but unfortunately I have not been able to find him arriving in Australia.   If you have any further information on this part of the family I would love to hear it.   Burg

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