Hi Sue, Thanks again, this is all so helpful.
Yes I am still digging through DNA connections. Ian pretty sure that Frederick Murray is my mystery man.
There are so many links from other parts of his extended family that point to this.
Now what I believe is that Frederick when 19 yrs old got with a 17 yr old called Mabel I know she had a c
Son in Footscray in 1922 and called him Frank last name Smith.
Frederick Murray apparently left her. She passed the child over to her elder brother and he and his wife reared him.
Little Frank is my S-i-l' Dad. He is deceased. Now the Arden connection come in through the name Haby it's one of the Matches but I can't remember where.
If I find that I will have a connection straight through. That would be good. I do have a connection to three others who are cousins. I am currently trying to get paper trails on this.
I am on the mobile so hope it is all okay. I will Pm you in the morning.
Essnell.
SMITH Frank
Mother Mabel Rose SMITH
Father -
FOOTSCRAY
31409/1922
Little Frank SMITH had father Frank Murray, you believe.
Frank MURRAY was also the father of child Barbara Lyel MURRAY (within his marriage to Dinah Margaret ARDEN )
Barbara Lyel MURRAY married Wesley Bertram HABY and their child was Diana April HABY.
Frank Murray therefore is the common connection between Little Frank Smith and Diana April HABY.
Correct? Is that where the HABY name in your findings comes in?
Sue