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but were you able to locate a German birth for Elizabeth, daughter of Elizabetha and Fredolin?
In your journal, you mentioned that his parents Fredolin and Elizabetha Schmeider had on board a daughter also named Elizabeth. This is not the case as Carl was the first born and a sister named Elizabeth was born later in Australia.
Leisa
Dear Leisa,
The daughter, Elisabeth Marie, mentioned in the article, married Henry DAMM and passed away 16 Oct 1879, aged just 23, that is, she was born c.1856
Dear Sue and Jerry, and everyone else who has contributed,
I am so grateful for your patience and for pointing me in the right direction.
Information I’ve gathered regarding Carl’s birth:
The Ship and Voyage: I am focusing on the Armin (Master: Capt. Sommer), which arrived in Port Jackson in November 1858 but was still in port through Jan/Feb 1859. I’ve learned there were 10 births on board during that voyage.
I have never been able to find a birth certificate for my great-grandfather Carl, but I am now wondering if he was actually born in early 1859 while the family was in isolation. Because of a reported case of smallpox on board, the passengers were moved to the North Head Quarantine Station at Spring Cove.
Leisa
Sue
So likely he was born at the Quarantine Station, though I would say that 3 months detention there seems lengthy if he did not set foot on Aust soil until February.
Sue
You know it is impossible for him to be born 16 Feb 1859 because his brother was born in May 1859 in
Debra
I am now focusing everything on the ship Armin (or Arnim). I have discovered a major clue: while some shipping lists only note two passengers, the official 1859 Health Officer’s Report for Port Jackson proves there were actually 292 passengers on board. Because of the smallpox, they were held at the Quarantine Station and weren't officially cleared to land until February 1859. This matches my great-grandfather Carl’s birth and every word my father ever told me.
