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Lh; i have ordered a copy fom amazon, i saw the book about 9yrs ago and off and on iv looked for it, not very well but with no author or title to go by, i asked the same question and people didnt know what i was rattling on about. after half an hour of coming across this forum and posting my message i have a successful reply so once again thankyou. my grandad has the surname which i carry too and doesnt know much of his family, he is from the north east and while i dont pressume any relation to the particular family of the book, it still possibly may explain some characteristics of our gene pool.

rob; thankyou rob what you have mentioned is insightful and i didnt know it. there is an old photo of my grandad when he was younger, jet balck hair and tight curls. i tell him he looks like ryan giggs and he says thats funny they used to call me giggsy at school? he was continously told by a neighbour ''he had the tar brush in him'' he recalls an aunty he used to see that he was very fond of wrapped in a shawl always. a big woman who he says looked pure eskimo and very warm face. and my uncle was frequently asked if he was from mongolia they have a south eastern european look. im fascinated by history and family history is no different. i wont pretend to be gypsy but respect and agree with alot of traditional values they carry that seem to have withstood the test of time as best they could.  joe.c

Theres a book with the title.."Tales of the old Gypsies" its by Jennifer Davies, it as a chaptor in it called Coulsons of Craghead and it mentions the Black face Coulsons,could this be the one ?

 ISBN 0715307029

i really think it could be! i will see if i can get a hold of the book, do you yourself know of any copies? thats really really helpful thankyou very much.

hello barbera,
i stumbled on this chat, whilst trying to look up my family tree, my grandads mother was mary jane stephenson from jarrow she was born so im told 14th oct 1900, she married a man called joseph sewell coulson. mary janes father was a george stephenson born around 1880 he apparently had around 5 children - dorothy,margaret,alice,george and mary i dont know of his wifes name but she died and he married again to a lady called mabel and they had i think 3 more kids. i wonder if you or anyone else could shed some more light on this or possibly tell me if this links my family to george robert stephenson'. many thanks joe.