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I will ask the gro for a reference check on the Ellen Otter, just to rule it out, as her Father Dennis was born in Radcliffe also Notts.
 As far as we know, if the census is to be believed, and it is our Ellen, she was born in Portsmouth, and her father is a royal marine. What we know as fact from her wedding cert, is that her father is Dennis. Anecdotally we knew that this branch of the family had come from Nottinghamshire somewhere.
But there are a lot of Otters around this area at that time, and particularly around Retford, and again Basford is close by too.

Thanks for all your efforts.
Alex

Please help!!
One branch of my tree is causing no end of trouble.

I have a Dennis Otter who is a colour sergeant in the Royal Marines when he got married in 1843. Have him on census's with his wife and then children, with names, places of birth etc. Have marriage certificate.

Problem is not a single one of the 6 children is on the civil index of births, and they are in 3 different counties, so did the military keep different records? If so are they available to be looked at? Is it heard of for whole families not to be registered at all???

They were born between 1844 and 1863. Not even the last one in 1863 is listed, even though Dennis is by then a Greenwich Pensioner (1861 census).

Have been at this on and off for too long now so please help!

Thanks squancette

We have a definate birth date of Henry Sewell as 15/12/1822 taken by my uncle from the parish records at Felstead some years ago, and his marriage certificate stating the name of his father as John Sewell.
The Sole society provided us with siblings for Henry and birth dates from their records, which matched Henry's birth date that we already had, and a birth date for John of 1795. We also had this as a possible date from pallots baptism index.
We have therefore presumed that the marriage is prior to 1812 as this is the year of the oldest known siblings' birth.
All the children were born at Felstead so we hope that John and Elizabeth, whose name is also from the Sole Society, were local all their lives.
The occupation that we have in 1855 on the marriage certificate of Henry for John is farmer.
I hope that this helps to confirm some possible candidates!
Thanks

Hi, look up and or help to find:
John Sewell, Married to Elizabeth ? prior to 1812. Children are all born in Felstead Essex, Elizabeth 1812, John 1815, Thomas 1816, George 1820, and Henry 1822. We do not have a surname for Elizabeth, nor a marriage date, we have a possible birth year for elizabeth as 1788, and John 1795?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks