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Cumberland / Re: Maryport
« on: Tuesday 07 February 12 20:07 GMT (UK)  »
He did have a car, he owned the very first one in Maryport a 1902 3 and a half horse power Swift - it reached the break neck speed of 20mph :) and his Chauffeur lived in the rear house at the back of king street for almost all his life - 55 years working as his driver.. his name was Claude Mann.
If you get hold of a copy of Keith Thompsons book entitled Maryport - Amazon as a copy or two, there is a wonderful image of him driving the car with his chauffeur sitting aside him .

I hope the 2 shillings and sixpence were well spent and your ailments cured :)
He was also the doctor for the Senhouse family and a historian as well. I have found out a lot about him in the past few months that I have had time to set aside to research the families of the area.

I have set up a facebook page that is dedicated to the lost treasures and memories of Maryport.... go take a look, its getting very interesting with almost 500 members joined in 2 weeks.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Netherhall-Mansion-and-the-Senhouses-of-Maryport-Cumbria/237582756316023

We'd love to see you there :)
Steve
 

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Cumberland / Re: Maryport
« on: Thursday 26 January 12 08:55 GMT (UK)  »
and if anybody on this forum has any stories, images, or general info about the mansion or the Senhouse, De Eglesfield or De Sheftling families who have lived there, please feel free to share with the community.

Personal stories of life in the hall by ex servants or visitors - there must still be some survivors around??? are really wanted, as these will feature on the main website that will follow this pages launch later in 2012.

If you have something, anything!!, no matter how insignificant you may think it is, it may be important to the site, so please, please, post it to the site or contact the admins on there for info on how to submit personal recounts.

Thanks

Steve

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Cumberland / Re: Maryport
« on: Thursday 26 January 12 08:49 GMT (UK)  »
Facebook page has now been set up for the Netherhall mansion estate and the senhouse family, find it here: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Netherhall-Mansion-and-the-Senhouses-of-Maryport-Cumbria/237582756316023
Its getting pretty heated on there, with calls for volunteers to help clear the existing follies in the grounds of overgrowth and weeds, and for tradesmen to offer services to help protect the buildings! and an amnesty call for plundered items still in the area to be returned to their rightful owners......
and its featuring images that have never been seen before, plus a lot of informative news on the past lives of people who lived there..... Hit the link, join the group and become a part of something that isn't just about talk, but about action!!! this place is buzzing right now!!!

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Cumberland / Re: Maryport
« on: Tuesday 28 December 10 21:10 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Audrey, outside khazi's were all the rage once :)
I used to live on a farm in the middle of nowhere and had a green shack in the field, with a bucket and cut out hole on a wooden plank that covered it! used to get emptied by the council once every 2 weeks
Bleedin freezin in winter - and the flies in summer!!!!
Our house in Maryport still had the old coal range in the kitchen, the hub of all activity.

Herbert and mary, I think they were the towns newsagents, he also had a secondhand book store next to the newsagents, they used to live next door to us at no 9 High street, doubtful if either of them are still alive as they were pretty old when i lived there. He wanted to be either the local mayor or council rep always walked his dog on the streets and when it answered the call of nature, he would pull out a pack of tissues and wipe its bum for it :)
Quite an eccentric man, but heart of gold and part of the much needed breed of historians that Maryport really could have prospered from, had there been more around who shared his passion I think the hall would still be standing now and would have gone through a state of rejuvenation..
I have the history of Maryport ad78 - 1900, think that was his first book, are the others back in print? could possibly benefit from getting hold of some, tried Amazon but nothing available...... they were printed and self published and sold locally, so can't imagine too many people having them.
Cheers
Steve


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Cumberland / Re: Maryport
« on: Monday 27 December 10 21:00 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks again Audrey, Indeed the Crerar's were the medical family who lived in the house. I don't know where they put all those children though!!! there were only 3 master bedrooms in the house and one small dressing room that was locked between 2 of them.
It is possible that the children may have all been put into the attic rooms - there were 6 separate rooms up there which I originally believed to be the servants quarters.....but now, upon finding this out, I could possibly have been wrong in this assumption.

Thank you for all your help so far.

Regards

steve

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Cumberland / Re: Maryport
« on: Monday 27 December 10 11:12 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Audrey, thanks for writing back to me, bizarre to think that only 24 years later the house would be empty and on its way to being destroyed.
Can you remember any of the names of the books that you referred to? I have searched on Amazon and Google and can only come up with antiquarian books dating the deaths of the Senhouses and tourism guides, apart from this, very little else is resulting from my evenings search.

If you would like your family mentioned in the website, please let me know, I am considering mentioning and listing the staff from previous censes' as a testament to their hard work in keeping such a house.
Your recollections sound wonderful, I would love to hear more from you bout what you remember about the house - its layout, and how it looked in its heyday - if you have the time to write to me.
Regards

Steve

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Cumberland / Re: Maryport
« on: Sunday 26 December 10 21:02 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Bob, will have a good scout at this.

Audrey, I followed their line through ancestry.com and the Eaglesfield family appear to come from Eaglesfield Manor in the village they named after themselves - Eaglesfield.
Elizabeth is cited as being born in the manor in Eaglesfield and was later stated as deceased in Netherhall but no dates are available to confirm this.
It appears that she was amongst the first line of Senhouse / Eaglesfield line to purchase the hall back in the mid 1500's.... I know they were married around 1528 and their son John, who carried on as head of the house, dies in 1604/05 - succeeded by his son Peter and the line is steady until 1952 when the last of the successors dies without producing a heir, after which I believe one of his remaining sisters (Dorothy Elizabeth) steps in as custodian for 10 years until her death - then the house is locked up and the inevitable happened....
What was / is your connection with the hall?
Do you have any images of the place or of the Senhouse family that you would be willing to allow being published on a website?
I've still been trawling the internet and the lack of information that is out there is appalling, have managed to find some images of Humphrey II and his wife Mary Fleming, their son and heir - Humphrey III (as a child) and also of their other son - Barbados plantation owner William (1741 - 1800) - will still keep trawling as there are bits of information out there but it isn't easy to locate - I may be able to glean the smallest bit of info out of one site in 200 that i visit. Quite crazy that such a high profile family should be so low key interest.
If you would prefer to carry on a conversation off this forum, let me know, I will send you my email address.
Regards
steve

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Cumberland / Re: Maryport
« on: Saturday 25 December 10 22:20 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, I used to live in Maryport - albeit briefly - the house I lived in always intrigued me, it was rumoured that a surgeon or doctor lived there and operated from the cellars.... this theory was backed up by a number of old balms and medicines / pills found in jars in the cellars back in the 70's.
Is there any way anyone can find out who lived in the house?
It is Georgian and stands at no 11 High street - so has been standing for well over 200 years now, is a little disheveled as I just stalked the house on google maps, and is now possibly empty
The owner did have a groundsman working there full time, as denoted by the cottage set aside for them in the grounds, also had a number of servants working there, as there were 6 rooms on the attic floor and one master chamber for the head servant on the 2nd floor, asecret staircase to the kitchen with access to the main residence and bedrooms, external wash house and a very large coach house that easily fit 6 modern day cars.... so whoever built the house was very much a high flyer of his day to live this close to the original norman settlement and yet so close to the port and town centre.
Can anybody find out from any old census who possibly lived there and their occupation?

I am also in the process of revitalising the memory of Netherhall mansion.... dismayed to know it is no more, and even more dismayed to find no evidence or websites on the Senhouse manor which they inhabited - until the death of the last remaining son in 1952, for almost 400 years
Nobody seems to remember it, it is in danger of being completely forgotten and most people don't actually seem to care either way.... so I am now gathering information in order to put up a website about the old place - keep its memory alive and also the name of the Senhouse's (desevenhouse) too.
If anybody has anything about this property - images, items purchased / acquired before its final demise, i would love to work with you and include these into my finished memorial to the manor and family name that Maryport was built on.
have all the names of the Senhouses (all 10 generations of them) that lived in the house from the late 1500's, but if anyone has information on the previous lords / owners, please feel free to share :)
thanks in advance

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