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Staffordshire / Re: Mansfields of Tutbury
« on: Tuesday 04 January 11 16:01 GMT (UK)  »
I have found a reference to Paul Mansfield, s. of Wiliam, victualler at Tutbury....he was apprenticed to Humphrey Shelley, of Birmingham buttonmaker in April 1782
There is also a connection between Tutbury and Birmingham in that Tutbury notes of "ex pats" show 1881 census shows Tutbury born Walter Shelley as a 9 year old in Birmingham, and also George Shelley as a 57 year old in Birmingham.
There are quite a few Shellys and Shelleys recorded at Tutbury.
I have also noted the children of Wm Mansfield and Elizabeth Harlow
Bryan

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Staffordshire Lookup Requests / Re: Lucas
« on: Wednesday 29 December 10 11:07 GMT (UK)  »
OK here goes.for starters.........These are from the earliest records at Tutbury St Mary's
Only "Monty" is Montgomery  son of Jehosophat/joanna baptised 12 5 1685
-Jehosophat died 1681 there is no further record of Montgomery at Tutbury
Other children from the marriage are.
Onisipheros 24  5 1686 no further record.
Elizabeth 11 1 1687 no further record at Tutbury
Deborah   2 1 1689  do.
John        16 3 1690 - there is a John father of   John who was baptised  26 6 1726, records only state that he is son of John and his wife, who is not named.
Jehosaphat 4 6 1693 buried 28 4 1696
Penelope 20 10 1695 buried 24 12 1708
Jehosaphat (again) 23 2 1697
Mary 14 5 1700        buried 8 8 1789
Timothy, 23 2 1701 - was buried 2 days later with his mother
Please ask if you need any other later Lucus/Lucas info.
if so,you may find it convenient to give me an email address

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Staffordshire / Re: Mansfields of Tutbury
« on: Tuesday 28 December 10 12:19 GMT (UK)  »
NO, not every family, this will lead to others....I have a disc which contains BMD, Census, burials, tirhes apprentices etc., This was done for Tutbury museum,and I obtained a copy from the compiler.
The 1600s to the mid 1950s are on the disc and it is quite comprehensive.
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I will work on the tree you sent, and will be in touch later

Bryan

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Staffordshire completed Look up Requests / Re: Where are these places? (Completed)
« on: Monday 27 December 10 11:50 GMT (UK)  »
Kingstanding is where the King "stood" when Hunting in mediaeval times, and was part of Needwood Forest, which extended to  Tutbury, Hanbury, Anslow, Barton under Needwood Yoxall, Marchington Newborough etc.
and was administered from Tutbury Castle.
OS map 245 shows Needwood Forest with Kingstanding near to the B5234 from Burton to Newborough opposite Lancaster Park and the Tatenhill Airfield, near to where the new National Football centre is being built.
Regards

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Staffordshire completed Look up Requests / Re: Where are these places? (Completed)
« on: Monday 27 December 10 11:36 GMT (UK)  »
Kings Standing is certailnly near to Tutbury, Anslow, Rolleston.....but it's not a placename on a map.....it was originally part of the Needwood forest, and the history books say that it is the

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Staffordshire / Re: Mansfields of Tutbury
« on: Monday 27 December 10 11:17 GMT (UK)  »
I have attached an extract from my Supalist, which shows all entries 1600 /1700s
If you need detaile info, please ask and quote file reference, (e.g.M5, M5A etc.,)
Bryan

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Staffordshire / Re: Mansfields of Tutbury
« on: Sunday 26 December 10 11:55 GMT (UK)  »
IManaged to get a few minutes spare so have been looking through the marriages, and there are a good few in Tutbury, I could send you a list, (would take a little time to transcribe)as an attachment to this forum, let me know if this would be useful.
A notable entry is "Thomas Mansfield, shoemaker b. Tutbury, son of Samuel married 24 1 1847 Sarah Mansfield, furrier of Clerkenwell, dau. of Paul, buttonmaker.   (cousins?)
Thomas and Sarah Mansfield were witnesses at the marriage of Boniface Langley, Tutbury Surgeon, to Maria Ballance daughter of an innkeeper, in May 1839 ( I understand that Langley was succeeded as a local Surgeon by Wolfenden, who was a friend's grandfather - they also owned the Dog and partridge in Tutbury, which is a fine historic Inn, as the Wolfendens came from Ireland, they may have purchased the Inn together with other rather grand property in Tutbury, including two properties in Monk Street.

There are two marriages into my wife's Woolley family, John Woolley to Mary Mansfield in 1851 and earlier, George Woolley to Elizabeth in 1776.

Regarding Chinns in Birmingham, Henry Chinn b.Derby went to the California Inn in Northridge.but Carl Chinn of TV history fame, nor I , could find any other links
Regards
Bryan

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Staffordshire / Re: Mansfields of Tutbury
« on: Sunday 26 December 10 09:37 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for your email, I understand only too well the need to get an intelligent younger person to explain the intricacies of electronic gizmos.....
My own family, Chinn, were from Derby, and many generations were in St. Werburgh's parish, so I have spent a lot of time at Derby Local studies.
I'm still trying to find the Mansfield connection with my wife's family, will go through the paper records after the Bank Holiday.
Regards
Bryan

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Staffordshire / Re: Mansfields of Tutbury
« on: Saturday 25 December 10 09:49 GMT (UK)  »
Happy Christmas
There is not any record of Sarah's baptism  in the Tutbury Parish, nearest match is a Sarah b.1733,  but i wonder if there is something at Hanbury, in view of the Vicar of Hanbury officiating at the wedding.....as you probably know Hanbury is a short distance from Tutbury.
I have had a quick look at the 1840 tithe records, and find that in 1840 Thomas Mansfield owned several houses in Monk Street (shown in 1841 census living at no.11 Monk Street.described as a shoemaker age 45, with wife Sarah aged 55).
He is also credited with houses in Church Street, and land by the "Hall and Yard"...I think that the Hall would be the Church Hall and the Yard the Churchyard.This is now built on and was a sizeable patch, apparently stretching from the Church to the Tutbury mill. The digitised record of the maps I have is not quite clear about the number of houses, unfortunately I wiil not be able to see the originals until Easter.
Hope this is useful information,
Regards
Bryan

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