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Doris is his wife.
By “no idea who she is” I meant which birth is hers, and who her family is.

Thankyou
That's still more than I knew before joining here.
I'm learning more each day.

Thankyou very much for your help so far

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I don’t think anyone has yet explicitly warned you.

Do not assume the trees on Ancestry are correct. ALWAYS check each step. 
Some steps can only be confirmed by buying certificates.
Do check the galleries on other trees, sometimes you strike it lucky and find they have posted the relevant documents (sometimes the document proves the tree owner has it wrong but haven’t noticed!j.

Eg. I have no idea who Doris M Hughes is. Even though we know her actual birth date from the 1939 register.  There are no Doris M Hughes in the births for that quarter, and no Doris, no M, Hughes in Darlington.

So...you will have to buy her marriage certificate, and hopefully she had a father (ie wasn’t illegitimate) who she named, so then you have a chance of finding her on the 1911 census with parents.

Thanks for this.

I have found a few trees on others profiles who have similar names from other parts of the country. So haven't included them. I have added a few that have matched the people found through what you guys have helped me with on here though.

Somehow I added a Doris as my Grandma's mother. Robert Barker juniors wife. Not exactly sure where I got that from though, maybe off here, I'm not sure. I'll scroll back and have a look.

It was probably a suggestion via Ancestry.

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Please could somebody help with this next part?

Is Dolly referring to Doris? I found a Doris Hughes on Ancestry and from posts here etc, I think I've got the right lady?

Also Robert Junior had an wife from a first marriage called Alice who he had six children with and five with Dolly who I am assuming is Doris?

Its getting a little overwhelming now. I never realised the family was this big. They had a lot of kids back then didn't they?

I've attached a copy and paste which it wouldn't let me post here as there was too many characters

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Quote
. I have searched Ancestry, but can only find a Mary Wrightson which is showing she had a daughter called Sarah J?

Search using John Marshall WRIGHTSON

Thanks  8)

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I’m desperately trying not to spoil your fun, but if you are looking at trees on ancestry you can see there are two schools of thought for the parents of Mary HEDLEY

However, here is the marriage licence as she was under age, consent is given by her uncle Richard Paverley

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-67L3-M68?i=125&cc=1675690&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQ2CY-TL94

Confirms her parents must have been.
her father Richard, a blacksmith and her mother Sarah nee Paverley who had both died (1845 & 1846 respectively). Notices in newspaper for both those deaths.


Thankyou very much for all your help so far!

I have also received a bit more info about the Barker side (my Grandmothers) again from my cousin, so I contacted a newspaper to confirm what he said was true and it is. The details from the first post, plus a front page article about the family in 1999. Hopefully now, I can go back even further.
My Grandads side though, I think that will be a different story. Probably more like a nightmare actually.

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Here is France’s birth

WRIGHTSON, FRANCES       HEDLEY 
GRO Reference: 1859  S Quarter in DARLINGTON UNION  Volume 10A  Page 12


Yes, that Ambrose/Barker marriage  IS theirs, we have confirmed that with the subsequent working.
That question was just us getting going, and it was conceivable that you might have already had that information.

To confirm for sure you would need to buy one of their children’s birth certificates.

Thankyou (again).  ;D

Is there a link in your post? If there is, its not displaying for me. I have searched Ancestry, but can only find a Mary Wrightson which is showing she had a daughter called Sarah J?


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Is this their marriage?

Marriages Mar 1942   (>99%)
Ambrose    William    Barker    Darlington    10a   84   
Barker    Dorothy    Ambrose    Darlington    10a   84   

Sadly I don't know the answer to that. I am unsure what year they got married, or if the wedding was in Darlington where my Grandma was from or in Manchester where Grandad was from.

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Either could be a bit out.
They weren’t as fixated on their ages back then. Many people only knew their approximate age.  Often in censuses you can see a huge variation in estimated age.
Eg 37 in one , then say 41 in the next. (If only we could age as slowly)

1859 v 1861 is VERY close.


Added, I usually work on the earlier census being more likely to be correct, or closer to the truth anyway. Especially if a lot of children.

Thanks for clearing that up.

I'm adding all this information to the family tree, and thanks to you guys, I've made more progress now. Can see going further back, is going to become a problem though.


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