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Lanarkshire / Re: Divorce in Scotland in the 1920s
« on: Sunday 05 February 12 17:55 GMT (UK)  »
Going back and looking at the marriage certificate for James Gray Donaldson and Jane Kennedy I can see the same stamp in the margin - this stamp must be added in the event of a divorce, although there is no entry in the amended entries. It means that the 2 people who appear in the entry with the stamp got divorced, if either of them go on to remarry they will be described as 'divorced' or 'divorcee' rather than 'widow' or 'spinster' etc.

But does any one know how common divorce was in the 1920s?

Or how you went about getting a divorce?

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Lanarkshire / Re: Divorce in Scotland in the 1920s
« on: Sunday 05 February 12 13:41 GMT (UK)  »
Oh wow! No, I didn't see that record. Thank you so much  :D

And the stamp in the margin - I can't quite make it out.

When Jane remarried in 1939 I have a copy of that marriage certificate. There is no stamp in the margin however it does state that she is a divorcee who was "formally married to James Gray Donaldson against whom she obtained ******* (illegible) divorce".


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Lanarkshire / Re: Divorce in Scotland in the 1920s
« on: Saturday 04 February 12 18:15 GMT (UK)  »
Ah ha,

But no relevant records or divorce records...

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Lanarkshire / Re: Divorce in Scotland in the 1920s
« on: Saturday 04 February 12 17:42 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you. I had come across this website before but have found it incredibly hard to use *embarrassed face*.

I'll keep playing around with the search fields.

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Lanarkshire / Divorce in Scotland in the 1920s
« on: Saturday 04 February 12 17:34 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

Does anybody know how to go about researching divorce records?

I'm looking specifically for the divorce of James Gray Donaldson and Jane Dow Kennedy. They married in Glasgow on 19/09/1924 but divorced sometime before 1938 - this is when James remarried Annie McConnach Benson. Jane remarries the following year to Hugh Douglas Jardine.

Does anybody know how common divorce was in the 1920s/30s?

Or does anybody recognise any of the names above as relating to their family tree in some way.

Thank you lots!! Gill

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Ayrshire / Re: Different mother's names on marriage certificates
« on: Saturday 29 January 11 19:51 GMT (UK)  »
I'm discovering more children of John and Bridget!!

No, I'm not based in Scotland. I'm in Brighton! The Scullion line of the family comes from my Mum's side. Her Dad (Thomas Jardine) came from Glasgow where his Mum, Mary Scullion, moved to from Ayr.

I never met my Grandparents - my Grandad Jardine died in 1978. Because my Grandad moved to England my Mum knew very little of her family up in Scotland and they all lost touch. In turn I knew very little so decided to do some searching. It's amazing what you can find, I absolutely love it! My Mum thought her Dad was one of three, I discovered he was actually one of five!

I used to live in the Midlands - Leicester and then Shropshire.

Keep digging!

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Ayrshire / Re: Different mother's names on marriage certificates
« on: Saturday 29 January 11 19:15 GMT (UK)  »
Just to add Scully,

When John remarried following Bridget's death. He and Hannah had three children:

Catherine Scullion, Elizabeth Scullion and Thomas Scullion. All of them died in childhood:

Catherine died at 110 George St on 23rd June 1986 aged 2 from Whooping Cough
Elizabeth died at 87 George St on 11th May 1897 aged 6 1/2 from TB
Thomas died at 110 Cross St on 17th June 1896 aged 15 months from Whooping Cough
On the birth cert Thomas's full name was Thomas Helena Docherty Scullion. No idea where the Docherty came from but I think Helena might have been after John's mum.

I also noticed John, a son of James and Margaret, registered the death of a premature birth with his wife Jane Dillon. There is also the birth in 1892 of a Margaret Brown Scullion to John and Jane before they were married presumably as she's listed as illigitimate. Born March 28th 1892 at 69 Mill St.

I hope you don't mind me asking but where are you based? Scotland?

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Ayrshire / Re: Different mother's names on marriage certificates
« on: Saturday 29 January 11 18:47 GMT (UK)  »
Patrick Scullion was born in 1881 to John and Bridget. He married Barbara McMillan in 1903 and, as you say, was living at 88 York St at the time, as was Barbara. Barbara was an illigitimate child and shared the same surname as John's step son - Samuel McMillan, who was an illigitimate child to John's second wife Hannah. Presumably all part of the same family.

Patrick died in Kyle Union Poorhouse on 5th March 1906 from TB. Interestingly his parents are listed as James Scullion and Bridget McCheyne, however I'm presuming this was an error. The death was registered by James Henderson, Govenor (presumably of the poor house). Patrick's wife Barbara had died before him in 1905 at 88 York St Lane, Ayr, from TB. It was her widower Patrick that registered this death. It seems after she died he was admitted to the poorhouse however there are no records for him, I have already checked.

As for Mary Scullion, she was a border for the Taits - John and Mary Tait aged 26 and 25 respectively, their son, 2 year old James and another boarder - 17 year old Hannah McGee born in Ayr. Both boarders worked as Wool Spinners and they all lived at 70 Elba St. Also for that address is listed the Jess family - William and Sarah Jess aged 47 and 48 respectively and their three children - Margaret, 15, William, 15 and James 12.

A search on Scotlands People reveals that the wife Mary Tait was the daughter of William and Sarah Jess explaining why they were all living in number 70 Elba Street. Mary Jess and John Tait married in 1896, both were living at 27 Cross St at the  time.

Do any of these names mean anything to you?

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Ayrshire / Re: Different mother's names on marriage certificates
« on: Saturday 29 January 11 16:11 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Scully,

Regarding your previous message. I had noticed this. I kind of assumed that houses were split into parts as both William and John are listed as heads of household, but I don't know.

Have you seen the 1901 census? Your Thomas is married to Agnes and has his father James living with him. It states they were both born in Co Antrim, Ireland. Also living with Thomas is a boarder - Patrick Scullion aged 21. I believe this is John's son, Patrick. I have always been unable to locate my John Scullion on the 1901 census so have begun looking for his children. I have found Mary, my Great Grandmother, as a boarder with the Tait family in Elba St, now Patrick as a boarder with Thomas at 87 Wallace St.

Other people living with Thomas are a Maggie Scullion Balmer and her children Agnes and James. If you haven't already do so take a look at this census as it seems more of her children - a Thomas, Alice, William and George were living with a James Scullion - head of 79 Wallace St as they are listed as nieces and nephews.

Gill

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