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Thanks for both of you replies.

Bernard was my granddad, all i really know is that he was born in Coatbridge in 1908 and died in 1966. if you have any other bits of info on him that would really be great . Also i know next to nothing on his parents so if you know any thing on them that would be a bonus .

Many Thanks   Luke

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I had meant normal records , i will look into it .

Emma had a brother named Joseph who I'm told married a Elizabeth Barnes , quite a common name so I'm unsure exactly which Elizabeth barnes she is also she died in 1878 . I wonder if the Barnes names are connected.

Luke

Evie

You have done very well indeed , the link with the tattoos is a good one .
Herbert Raven seems very keen to join up to the Army , i wonder why he is unfit to serve?
i wonder if the service records state how tall he is as that would be anther fact to go on .

I have been wondering who his dad might be and trying to get a connection from some where and came up with this

1, Mother - Emma Raven - Jobs , Sales Women 1878, Waitress  ( INN ) 1881 census

2, Father not know on birth certificate, but has been given the middle name Barnes  which could well be a clue. On Herbert's marrage to Sarah Ann Burton he states that his father is John Raven , deceased Publican. I'm guessing it could be John Barnes, so i searched for a John Barnes in the 1881 census who was a publican and found one , John Barnes 1835 who ran a pub called Lord Nelson INN. He had a son called also John Barnes but he is a butcher .

Luke

4 Larkdale Terrace, Sherwood , in the County Town of Nottingham

Hope this helps !!!!!!

I have received the certified copy of an entry of birth of Herbert Barnes Raven .

D o b - 1878 16 Feb

Mother  - Emma Raven

Father -  no name

Occupation of mother - Sales women