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East Lothian (Haddingtonshire) / Re: Wilson/Middlemass Family of Haddington 1790
« on: Tuesday 25 August 15 06:00 BST (UK)  »
Hi there,
Thank you for all the information, which is extremely interesting!
I am certainly still 'chasing shadows'. many of my files happen to be in boxes currently, so my dates are approximate  and I am currently having a little break from Scotland's People. But i do have more information now.

Wilson is , in fact, the married name of my ancestor. Several dates for her are given only as approximate, if provided at all. She was born Margaret Mitchelson at Old Belton date 1765- 1783?
Her maternal ancestors were generally named Margaret and one of them was Margaret Emloch/Imloch. I am unsure without looking it up if that side of the lfamily were living at Dunbar or Belton yet. maybe further west.
Married William Wilson, Dunbar, 1789.
2 children, William, born Dunbar and Jean, born Belton. She was probably the elder.
The father, William, a servant at Belton Mill and then a mi;;er, died 1802. Chilren probably born before 1804. Their surname is given always as Wilson.
Jean/Jane married George Sanson,a tailor/ draper, Dunbar, 1830.They are at Dunbar in 1841 census with their children,  Mother in law margaret and her son, William. Ditto for 1851 census.
Margaret, in her late 80's, I think, disappears from the census at this point. There was a Margaret Wilson who died in the poorhouse in Dunbar in 1854 & another who died somewhere nearby in the 1850's.
Her son William is not in the Dunbar 1861 census. His trade is jorneyman carpenter/joiner. There is one William Wilson of this trade at the 1861 census in the house of a Mr Barrie, who was a carpenter and family at Innerwick or Oldhamstocks. He disappears when the barrie family move. No death date.
One of George and Jean's children, William Sanson, a draper and merchant were very well known. He did a lot of work with the Dunbar Rifle Volunteers & after his retirement was granted the honour of being permitted to wear his uniform.
William sanson and his wife Elizabeth Cook, from Frome had married in 1869. They had 3 children, Annie, a renowned singer, who is my grandmother, who married a Norwegian, harald Christian Dannevig. They came to Australia in 1902, where he was Commonwealth Director of Fisheries. He and his ship, The Endeavour were lost off Macquarie Island in a storm in 1914.
The next child, Flora Jane Sanson/Collins had a career over several decades.
The son, Frederick George Sanson, married Helen 'Daisy' Brand Taylor. She was a well-known singer, also. They are dirctly related to the Porteous family.
I'm afraid that after all, we do not seem to be related to Middlemass or to your Wilsons. If i find them at Dirleton, I will let you know.

Thank you for your help, Nordmann

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East Lothian (Haddingtonshire) / Re: place name confusion
« on: Monday 05 September 11 09:17 BST (UK)  »
Hi Ev,
Fantastic  map! I've found all the Beltons & also Dean Mill, which I couldn't find any other reference to!
Thanks, Anne aka Nordmann)

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East Lothian (Haddingtonshire) / Re: place name confusion
« on: Monday 05 September 11 08:27 BST (UK)  »
 :D Thank you Ev for the map of Dunbar.  Especially thank you for the suggestion of going back to the addresses on the censuses & seeing what the neighbours say about where they lived!

 8) Thank you Hibee - this is exactly the sort of confirmation I needed to show that I was not misinterpreting names & places.

Regards Anne (aka Nordmann) :)

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East Lothian (Haddingtonshire) / place name confusion
« on: Wednesday 31 August 11 10:03 BST (UK)  »
 Hi there,
Apologies for this really basic question. In the 1851 census, some relatives of mine were born in 'Belton, Haddington' or 'Belton Mile, Haddington', .
 In 1861 they said that they were born in 'Dunbar, Haddingtonshire'.

Another relative said that he was born in 'Dunbar, Haddington', which I know was Dunbar. In 1871, the same relative referred to being born in 'Dunbar, Haddingtonshire'.

Did my relatives in the 1841 census mean that they were born in Dunbar, or were they born over near the town of Haddington, possibly in the Belton estate area?

Thanks for helping me with some basic geography, Anne (aka nordmann) ???

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East Lothian (Haddingtonshire) / Re: Wilson/Middlemass Family of Haddington 1790
« on: Wednesday 23 March 11 11:50 GMT (UK)  »
I sent a detailed letter with my contact deails to Tom Middlemass, outlined the family history & explained in what way he might be able to assist. This was 10 weeks ago. Maybe he doesn't feell like responding. Would you be able to suggest anyone else?

ps. Are you related, possibly?

Thank you, Nordmann, (Anne)

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East Lothian (Haddingtonshire) / Re: Wilson/Middlemass Family of Haddington 1790
« on: Saturday 08 January 11 02:27 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you all above for your information which is certainly food for thought!

Thank you, Caledon C for your acknowledgement of a likely connection here. I will write to Tom immediately. Sorry to be tardy replying, but it is summer holidays here & we have been away.

Regards, Nordmann (aka Anne)

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Scotland / Re: Limited time - free access Scotsman Archives
« on: Wednesday 01 December 10 07:44 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you both for setting me straight. Must have seemed like a question from Mars. The day & date ie Tuesday Nov. 30 is coincidentally the same as for this year.

Yes, these days I have research interests in Scotland, England & Norway. Scotland & England are new for me here in Australia. The forum is looking very interesting.

Regards, Nordmann

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East Lothian (Haddingtonshire) / Re: Wilson/Middlemass Family of Haddington 1790
« on: Tuesday 30 November 10 21:21 GMT (UK)  »
I believe that there were several wilsons at haddington. One of my ancestors,Margaret, born about 1775? at Belton Mile, Haddington, had the (married?) name Wilson. She may have married about 1790.

She had at least 2 children, Jean/Jane, who married George Sanson, & William Wilson.
The three of them were living with the Sansons in Dunbar by 1841. I don't yet know anything about her husband.

Both William & Margaret vanished from the Scottish census after 1851. Margaret had surely died by then.

Don't know if this helps. Any link do you think?
Nordmann

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Scotland / Re: Limited time - free access Scotsman Archives
« on: Tuesday 30 November 10 20:43 GMT (UK)  »
Working now - you do need to register, then select the FREE option on the subscription page

Thanks Falkyrn!

 ;)
Hi there. Following your helpful directions re The scotman free access to archives week, I have registered, but can't find any 'free' option on any subscription page. Are you able to help, please?  :-\Nordmann

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