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London and Middlesex / Emanuel Goodhart and McCormick-Goodharts
« on: Sunday 16 January 11 13:32 GMT (UK)  »
The Goodhart family tree created by H C N Goodhart does not appear, per se, on the internet. I have been in touch with the author who, being in his 90s, has given responsibility for its data to his nephew and no longer is developing it. It was a dynamic publication and I have a version printed in 1985 - probably about as up-to-date as it ever got before being passed on.

In the short introduction Nicholas Goodhart acknowledges that it is based on the "large amount of research done by Leander McCormick-Goodhart over the greater part of his life" so its links to the trees identified in the earlier postings become clear. He also clearly identifies specific limitations to his work - namely that it is limited to holders the Goodhart name and where that is changed, to McCormick-Goodhart for example, only one further generation is explored. It also means that the female lines are not explored. However, in the age before search engines and the internet such limitations are necessary - I find that the female lines are of equal significance to an appreciation of the overall family.

The new data owner is still working and will not be in a position to look at the tree until year after next so we will have to bide our time to find what further data is available.

I have no further concrete information on the German roots of the family but have a couple of observations. Within 20 years of Emanuel Goodhart (Jakob Emanuel Goodhart in the family tree) coming to England he is recognised as a major sugar baker with his own factory and within the same time has married Charlotte Imson who "came to England with George I" (A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland enjoying territorial possessions or high official rank: By John Burke). I deduce that his German family must have had some money and standing and this does not fit well with the Guthardt coopers though does NOT rule them out.

If there is any information still in existence on the Goodhart roots I wonder whether it may survive in the committee papers of Emanuel Goodhart's application to Parliament for Naturalisation in 1784. The Journal of the House of Lords (Emmanuel Goodhart naturalisation. Vol. 37, July 1784, pp 11-20) mentions such papers but does not elucidate. More research needed! Any input would be appreciated!

Lastly, turning to the McCormick family (though a little peripheral), I have a modern reprint of a family tree/book called "Family Record and Biography" by Leander James McCormick. This contains poor echoes of what may have been wonderful family portraits in the original publication. Has anyone seen the original? A similar observation applied to the "Hands Across the Sea" abstract at Ancestry.com - there are original plates in the book, including a portrait of Emanuel Goodhart and Langley Court that are wonderful and add much to family history's bare bones.

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London and Middlesex / Re: Emanuel Goodhart of Limehouse, sugar refiner
« on: Wednesday 01 December 10 17:43 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Rol

An oops is in order - a typo on my part with regard to the 31st May - I agree with the 3rd but read the day of his death - 31st!! Sorry about that.

Back to the observations on the Jewish faith - the reference you made to the Langley estate makes good reading - but there is a throwaway line in it that that fascinates me:

"One interesting architectural feature of the Mansion is that the Star of David appears on all the cast iron rainwater hoppers" - I wonder whether they were from the time of  Lord Gwydyr or the Goodharts!

A little background - my Mum is the 4th great grand-daughter of Johann Heinrich Guthardt so I am very interested in the family. Oddly enough, few members of the family appear on the web "in the genealogical sense anyway" but do you know otherwise?

For many years I have used a family tree created by H.C.N. (Nicholas) Goodhart and remain impressed at his accuracy - what would I have done without the internet?

Last enquiry - have you a specific Goodhart interest?

JasperMzee

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Chasing up the Goodhart discussion - Emanuel Goodhart was baptised at Saint Anne, Limehouse on 31st May 1772

(Ancestry.com, Provo, UT, USA, London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 (from Church of England Parish Registers, 1538-1812. London Metropolitan Archives and Guildhall Library Manuscripts, London), SAINT ANNE, LIMEHOUSE, Composite register: baptisms Jul 1747 - Sep 1783, burials Oct 1783 - Mar 1786, 1747 Jul-1786 Mar, P93/ANN/002, image 79).

One assumes that this means that they did not pursue the Jewish faith!

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