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Hi, that is brilliant, thank you, and I am sure that Shaun can tie that in with his info. I still can't fit my Phoebe in, but I am sure with time I will.

Hi, yes I am always desperate to find out about the Scotlands.  I have decided that Alexander and Phoebe Scotland are linked to my James Scotland, who fathered my Gr gr Grandmother Phoebe Scotland, B. 1845 with Margaret Scotland nee Critchley.  Sadly we can find no trace of then apart from Phoebe's birth and marriage certs.

  Thank you all again, I have forgotten how wonderful people are on here, since I have had a 12 month break from family history, but I love how one little  conversation turns a brick wall into a flowing river of information!

I was stuck on my William Barton V Margaret Clarke, marriage somewhere around 1900.......... then someone said "are you sure they are the correct parents" to me last week.........and they were the wrong ones, and I have managed to get the wedding cert since I am no longer quoting the wrong fathers name for the bride! and its all going lovely again! The person that made me go for the wrong parents, our Florence, has turned out to be William Bartons sister, and not Margaret Clarkes sister.........which means I have my first lead on the Bartons in many many years! from Harpurhey to Scotland in the space of 2 hours!!

  Hi, I have just had a new lead on my elusive Barton family from Harpurhey Manchester, and have traced Thomas Barton C 1847, and his wife Sarah C1841.

Thomas is a joiner, and is born Scotland, they are shown as living at 21 Ormond street chorlton-on-medlock in 1881 with their children David B 1869 manchester, Florence B. 1875, George Leslie B 1878 and William B 1880.

Would anyone be able to look them up on the 1861 / 71 Census' for me?
I think Sarah may be Sarah Livsey for the 1861 census Born in Congleton Cheshire.  I need her to be born around 1841!!! Then I will send for the Marriage cert.

Just to confirm that the ages are , and to see if it shows where in Scotland he came from.........looks like I will have to find a site that shows the Scottish census', I was just about to renew my membership with find my past but now I am not to sure what to do! Can anyone give me feedback on ancestry? its a while since I had membership with them, and they were not that brilliant then.
Cheers
Keren

  No, just a brick wall.

Did try try to research a likely family in Manchester in 1861, father John Callaghan Bootmaker.........but nothing came from that.

Havent had much chance over the last few months, with work commitments and kids.