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Berwickshire / Re: Adam Young and his parents John Young & Elizabeth Currie help
« on: Saturday 04 December 10 15:05 GMT (UK)  »
Hello again Gerry, thanks for your reply.
That was a real find - Adam Young's mother-in-law living in the vicinity.   You really are making super progress, it's like that with family tree, then you can go into a time when it's very slow, or worse, nothing.

I apologise I didn't even give you a clue of Thomas & Isabella's children's names and dates to start off at West Chapel Presbyterian NC Church, Wooler.
The first one to find is Walter, b.6.7.1814 , then Thomas, George, Margaret, Isabella, William (the first William born in Morebattle Scotland died in 1822) and lastly another Margaret in 1830, the first Margaret having died in 1827.

The Currys often followed the Scottish naming pattern, i.e. the first son is named for his paternal Grandfather, first daughter for her maternal Grandmother, second son for his maternal Grandfather, second daughter for her paternal Grandmother.  Often if a son or daughter died then the next girl or boy would be given their name.    It's not a hard-fast rule, but very often a good clue when researching.

Best regards, JC


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Berwickshire / Re: Adam Young and his parents John Young & Elizabeth Currie help
« on: Friday 03 December 10 16:55 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Gerry,
I'm not sure how much you want to bother about the Curry side, but if you want to find out a starting point would be Elizabeth's eldest brother, Thomas.
Thomas Curry born 19 March 1777 married Isabella Wilson on 17th February 1808 at Kirknewton.  Their first three children were born in Morebattle, Roxburghshire, Scotland (just down the road from Kirknewton)
Familysearch batch no. C118012 (Ann Curry was born in Morebattle).
They moved back to Northumberland and their next seven children were christened at West Chapel Presbyterian Church, Wooler, familysearch batch no. POO4531 refers.     I have the birth dates, these are the christening dates.

The above Ann Curry married  John Younger 1831 and they, together with their children including John Curry Younger (born Coldstream in 1840) emigrated to Australia in 1856 sailing on 'Almora arriving at Port Philip 13th September.    A Curry family tree colleague has a family bible in which is written 'John C. Younger, Yearing, Lilydale Post Office, Melbourne, Australia.  It is now presumed the spelling should have been Yering, which I understand is a wine-growing area.

If you can check YOUNGER on rootsweb for 2003 there is apparently a site dealing with the Younger family in Australia.   Grenville Younger has been making enquiries on this part of his family tree.

Haven't been on the Bishops Transcripts yet - so much snow here, impressive to look at, but not as much fun as it was when I was a child!
Regards, JC

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Berwickshire / Re: Adam Young and his parents John Young & Elizabeth Currie help
« on: Tuesday 30 November 10 16:28 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Gerry,
Thanks for the mail.    I have tried to gain access to the Durham Bishops Transcripts via. familysearch, without success.   Is this the LDS site?    Could you give me some pointers just how you get into the site please, I am not very computer literate I must emphasise.

Elizabeth Curry(Currie) had eight brothers and sisters, I have their details but it would seem you have found them out for yourself, but if you want any more details I will gladly share.

I have some fiche I could check for 'Youngs' when I have the opportunity.

I had seen the Wooler site you mention, and did wonder if the William Curry was part of my tree.     

Regards, JC

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Berwickshire / Re: Adam Young and his parents John Young & Elizabeth Currie help
« on: Sunday 28 November 10 14:23 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Gerry,
Thank you for the prompt reply.
For burial information I have contacted the Scottish Borders Council.   Some of the old burial records are in their possession.     I contacted the office at Galashiels on the last occasion, as I was looking at Bedrule in Roxburghshire
They have a website
www.scotborders.gov.uk  which might help you.

The Heritage Hub has recently opened, I have not contacted them, but their website is  archives[at]scotborders.gov.uk (replace [at] with @)I understand.

I have only once contacted a Church for help, but telephoned as my cousin gave me the telephone number of the local postmistress, who gave me the telephone number of the local councillor who gave me the telephone number of the Church Secretary!   No good for you.   Perhaps if you put the name village or town in question they will have a web site which might point you in the right direction.   Sorry, not much help, someone else may be more forthcoming.

I do make use of the following site -
www.maxwellancestry.com/census
It's super for no charge you can often access the census records of 1841, 1851 & 1861  and follow the fortunes of family members.    As many of them worked as agricultural labourers or shepherds they could move frequently.  There were the annual hirings, when workers gathered to be hired for another year.    (My Mother well remembered the hirings in May in Kelso Square, the farm workers came with their carts loaded with their worldly possessions, and the horses she said were decorated, tails plaited).

If you do go on this site and check the 1861 Berwickshire records you will find living at 7 Newton Street, Mid Div. Duns (3 rooms with windows) is
Elizabeth Young aged 64, Widow, Shepherd's wife born England.
Elizabeth is living with her son Andrew aged 35 Clerk in Lawer's office (managing) his wife Agnes and a Boarder.

Also living in Duns is Mary Young, aged 21 house maid born Gordon, working for James Cunningham, Solicitor & Bank Agent.  This house has 12 rooms with windows.

William Young can be found at Shepherd's House, Harrietfield, Nenthorn. After 1861 he and his wife had a further six children.    I check up on the familysearch site for these, it is just so expensive otherwise, they all had such large families.

If you check in the Roxburghshire records living at Sprouston at Gateside with 2 windows are Walter Curry Shepherd and his wife Janet & family of 9.  Also listed is
Robert T. Young, Servant aged 22, Shepherd born Gordon.

This Walter Curry was Elizabeth Currie's nephew (one of the sons of her eldest brother Thomas Curry)     His wife was formerly Janet Young.

The Curry family was a large extended family and often employed a family member.

I guess at the moment you are concentrating on Adam Young's family and their details.    I will gladly share my records if you ever feel you want to expand.

I await, with interest to learn if you discover the vessel which Adam sailed on.

I know other Youngs went to Australia, I can look through my records to see if I can find the paperwork.     Also Elizabeth's niece Ann Curry went to Australia, other family went to America.

Regards, JC

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Berwickshire / Re: Adam Young and his parents John Young & Elizabeth Currie help
« on: Saturday 27 November 10 18:49 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,
Re: the above John Young and Elizabeth Currie are buried in Gordon Churchyard, Berwickshire.

Details are-
'In memory of John Young shepherd Greenknowe who died 30.3.1847 aged 52 years also Elizabeth Currie his wife who died at East Gordon 10.9.1871 aged 73 years.

Elizabeth Currie's parents you have already confirmed as
William Curry and Ann Hall
William Curry was born 30.1.1748 at Chatton,
Anne Hall bc. 1752 at Milfield (Northumberland)
died 7.5.1807

William's parents (Elizabeth's Grandparents) were
Thomas Curry bc 1697 at Kilham & Campey
died 13.3.1784 at Kirknewton (Northumberland)
wife Margaret ..... bc. 1711 died 30.4.1770

A number of Currys are buried at Kirknewton Church Graveyard, including Margaret & Thomas.   The quaint wording on the gravestone you may be interested in reading
'Here lye the remains of Margaret Curry who died April 30th the year 1770 aged 59 years.  Also her spouse Thomas Curry husbandman at Kilham diared hear the 13th March 1784 aged 87 years.   They were a happy cupil and indulgent parents.'

You will notice the surname is usually spelt Curry, which may help you in your searches in England.   
I am descended from Elizabeth's eldest brother, Thomas.
JC


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