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Wicklow / Re: Wicklow Regiment of Militia
« on: Wednesday 26 November 25 11:03 GMT (UK)  »
I have an ancestor of mine, John Butler, who was a a Lieutenant in the Wicklow Militia he was an Ensign in 1798 and made Lieutenant in 1800, I have a later document in which he states he shed blood for King and Country. I think he must have left the Wicklow Militia shortly after 1800 as he was married in 1802 and set up his law practice in Athy.

I also have another relative Thomas Butler from the Wicklow area who served in the Dublin Militia, where he became a Captain, when he left the Militia, in around 1818, he stayed with a William Butler of Whitehall House near Baltinglass, I have letters Thomas wrote from that location.

I know that the William Butler of Whitehall House died in 1844 so its quite possible that William Butler of Whitehall House is the same William Butler who served as adjutant in the Wicklow Militia.

William Butler, the adjutant, appears to have served in 27 regiment of Foot (Inniskilling) he was Ensign in 1804, Lieutenant in 1805 and Captain in 1812, he was placed on half pay 1817.

I suppose that Richard Butler, the other adjutant, may also be related to William and Thomas, perhaps a younger brother,  Richard  appears to have been in the 91st foot an ensign in 1812, Lieutenant in 1814 and on half pay 1816.

Still lots of research to do



 

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Kildare / Re: Thomas Bell of county Kildare
« on: Thursday 05 December 24 14:47 GMT (UK)  »
The exact source is the Edenderry Quaker records you would need to go through them, I spent over 2 months going through the records to find the wife of Captain Thomas Butler. The other problem is the records themselves are intresting and you get to know some of a families and what happens to them,  a bit like a soap opera 😂

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Kildare / Re: Thomas Bell of county Kildare
« on: Thursday 05 December 24 11:48 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: andrewwinnett on Thursday 05 December 24 11:22 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that, yes I know about the records on findmypast but Sarah’s death isn’t there. You might have got it from the Edenderry records? I’d be very grateful if you could locate it.

I had a look at my notes and have Sarah Boakes death as 29 Aug 1750 in Baltinglass, Wicklow, Ireland, she was 37 and had given birth to 8 children.

She was married on 09 Jan 1731 Ballitore Wicklow

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Kildare / Re: Thomas Bell of county Kildare
« on: Thursday 05 December 24 11:36 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: andrewwinnett on Thursday 05 December 24 11:22 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that, yes I know about the records on findmypast but Sarah’s death isn’t there. You might have got it from the Edenderry records? I’d be very grateful if you could locate it.


Sorry I don’t have a subscription to find my past any more, I only took one out to look a the Quaker records.

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Kildare / Re: Thomas Bell of county Kildare
« on: Thursday 05 December 24 09:51 GMT (UK)  »
The Quaker records are on Find My Past i found many references for the Boakes and Parkes in the Endenderry Quakers records, its a matter of going through each records, it can be a long process.

I did resolve the the identity of Captain Thomas Butler 2nd wife, Elizabeth, she was a Quaker, she is buried in Rathangan Kildare in the Quaker cemetery the Quaker records state she is the wife of Captain Thomas Butler.

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Kildare / Re: Thomas Bell of county Kildare
« on: Friday 15 September 23 21:09 BST (UK)  »
Message sent

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Kildare / Re: Thomas Bell of county Kildare
« on: Friday 15 September 23 20:28 BST (UK)  »
The Lapham letter


Baltinglass 29th October 1819

Sir,

According to your directions in your last letter I have directed my friend Mr. Joseph LAPHAM of Cork Street, Dublin to forward to the Treasury in London one hundred and twenty two pounds ten shillings being the amount of my deposit for bringing out ten families to the new settlements in Africa. As I have some things yet to dispose of and other arrangements to make you will serve me materially by letting me know when tis probable the fleet will sail and if it is at Cork my party and myself will be picked up.

I have the honour to be most obediently yours

Thos. BUTLER

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Kildare / Re: Thomas Bell of county Kildare
« on: Friday 15 September 23 19:43 BST (UK)  »
Mimble

Thank you very much for the reply, I think our research maybe along the same lines and quite close

I have Thomas Butlers wife as Elizabeth Lapham, there are a lot of connections between the Laphams and the Butlers, Thomas Butler even gets "his good Friend Joseph Lapham of Cork street" to pay the journey money for the Settlers to travel out to SA. I think Elizabeth Lapham had a sister Sarah and she Married  Jeremiah Hanks 04 Nov 1794 in the Meath Street Meeting House, Dublin, Ireland.

Sarah Hanks nee Lapham parents are William Lapham and Mary Russel



Both Sarah Hanks and Elizabeth had daughters named Matilda around the same time and Elizabeth had a son Joseph Lapham Butler born 1809 in Wicklow. My other Kildare Butler line also has blood ties with the Laphams

I read the story of taxes and the agent running off with the money and Thomas being held responsible of the loss.

I have not found any daughters for Thomas Bell but I did come across that death record for Sarah Parke nee Boake in the quaker records, I need to revist that record.

I have 8 children + Mary for Thomas Parkes

Elizabeth Butler returned to Ireland in 1827 with her youngest son George she attended Quaker meetings in Endenderry as a non member, she died in 1847 and is buried in Rathangan Kildare Quaker cemetery, I can find no trace of George. When Elizabeth return to Ireland she must have to her family after the terrible experince in SA   

I went back to John Mongomery and Elizabeth Faulkner to get a wider view of the Montgomery Line.




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Kildare / Re: Thomas Bell of county Kildare
« on: Friday 15 September 23 16:55 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Monty128 on Friday 15 September 23 16:42 BST (UK)
I think it was Sarah Boake 1712 to 1812

Sarah Boake was, I think, Thomas Parkes first wife, in the Quaker records it does say “Sarah Boake wife of Thomas Parke died 29 Aug 1750“.

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