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Hi Jim,

No, unforunately it doesn't. The witnesses are James Carter (so on the bride's side) and a Minnie Ketley who I am assuming is a friend or bridesmaid.

I've already picked up the census with James who is a Bird Cage Maker and I actually think this is his father but I just can't prove it. His wife is a Lucy Mary Kenney and she is a widow on the 1901 census which fits in with James' father being deceased at the time of his marriage on 06 June 1897. The addresses of Lucy Mary Baker (nee Kenney) are also close in proximity to James Baker junior. Shame she didn't have any of here grandchildren visiting her on census night.

I might have to just check all births of James Bakers in Birmingham over a 2 year period and then, for any whose father was also named James, trace them all on censuses and hope that only one died before the date of James Baker junior's marriage.

Thanks for your help.

Best regards,


Julie

Can anyone offer advice to help me the right person where the surname is common (oops - i mean popular),

I'm trying to obtain the correct Birth Certificate for a James Baker (my hubby's GF who died before he was born). James Baker was born in Birmingham. James married Ada Carter on 6th June 1897 at The parish Church in the Parish of Birmingham and he was stated to be age 20 and his father was James Baker deceased, a Wire Worker.

We have found him on the 1901 census at 2 Court 4 House Russell Square, Angelina St, Deritend, Aston, Birmingham. James is stated to be 23 as is his wife and they have children James age 3 and Elsie May, 1.

On 1911 census James Baker and his wife Ada are stated as 34 and 33 respectively and they have children James (13), Elsie May (11), Thomas (9), Arthur (7), Samuel (4) and John (3mths).

James died in April 1953 and was stated to be 74 on the commerorative burial card we have (but we realise the age could be incorrect as it relied on hubby's GM to state it correctly (and she was 2 years out on her own age!).

I've obtained a couple of Birth Certificates where James Baker is fathered by a James Baker. I've managed to eliminate one as the potential father, James Baker was still alive on 1901 census but there are quite a lot so it would cost me a fortune to obtain all the certificates and try and work out by a process of elimination.

Anyone have any good ideas as to the best (and least expensive way) to go about finding the correct James Baker?

Any help greatly appreciated!

J

Thank you everyone for your help.

I probably haven't expressed myself correctly judging by the replies. I was hoping someone would be able to look up Elizabeth Allison McFadyen's birth or baptism in the parish records.

I have all the census details already but these obviously do not confirm her mother's maiden name.

I have a transcription of the marriage certificate of 15th January 1866 from St Pauls' Church of Ireland in Belfast  which states it is the marriage of John McFadden (Irish version of McFadyen) & Margaret Creelman. I also have copies of the Scottish birth records of John McFadyen b 18 June 1872 but the writing is appalling - it does look like Creelman.
However on FS Margaret's surname is listed as Greenman.

I cannot find a birth record of Margaret Creelman on the Irish family history site.

The tree you are referring to on Ancestry may be mine but in any event I never take anything from other family trees as true unless I can prove it with proper evidence.  I have already had to contact people who have put my close relatives in their trees just because they have the same name where it is not a relative of theirs at all. This has made me realise that others are not necessarily as meticulous and I really want to make sure the people in my tree are my bloodline.

I can always check next time I'm in the North East if no-one is able to look up the parish record for me.

Thanks again for your help folks.

Julie

Gillian,

I can't find a marriage either and have done all sorts of variations on the name.

Maybe he never actually re-married?

Perhaps he and Mary Ann lived together as man and wife without ever marrying?

It could be that we are making an assumption about the info on the 1901 census. Just because there is a Richard Freeth and a Mary Ann Freeth boarding at the same house in Clyde St, Wallsend and they are both started as married, it doesn't necessarily mean they are married to each other (although I must admit it is the likeliest scenario). Their status in relation to the head of the house is stated as 'Boarder' but not their status to each other.

Julie