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Hi   everyone,  Thank you for your replies, all very helpful.  So I can now see both of them and hopefully others can as well.
Essnell.

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Hi Rootschatters,
   I wanted to add a second wife to a male person in my tree on Ancestry.

I was able to do that but the first one and all descendants weren't visible any more. 

But by clicking on the new wife it changed back to the old one.  This is not what I had hoped for.
I have seen trees that show more than one wife  at the same time so how does one achieve that.   

such as Billy Blogs married to Sally Jones and also Mary Tinpot.

Hope this is understandable  and thanks for any ideas etc.  Essnell

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Limerick / Re: looking for information on Sophey [Sophie] gilbert bron 1899.
« on: Thursday 08 May 25 07:41 BST (UK)  »
Hello Again ..... I am back.....  I checked all the parish records on FindMyPast for David born 1840  . Not a lot but enough to help --possibly.  interestingly it also had   Census information included in the 1,700 odd matches.

1851 Census  Mum Dad and 3 boys  last is David age 11.  and birth place matches.   this is the only one that makes any sense. 

Then in 1871  there was an entry for David and Sarah as found earlier for Dorset.  However this is not our couple.  Sarah is from Dorset not Uffley as earlier noted.  This was another bit that added to the confusion. 

I need to check Sara's maiden name and if that is not manning then we know that the second David is from another Gilbert family.   :-\
Thanks everyone for all the helpand interest again .
Essnell

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Limerick / Re: looking for information on Sophey [Sophie] gilbert bron 1899.
« on: Thursday 08 May 25 00:34 BST (UK)  »
I agree about the confusion.  Originally I had David with Sarah [Sally] Manning married in 1872  Woodbridge.

Then I found a reference to them being in Moor Crichel, Dorset in 1871. I found all their children including William and then that brought up Clogheen. 
 Then the death of David in 1890  also in Clogheen.  Then Sara is back in York in 1872.   I could not find this David's father or his birth.   However he may have been born in 1840 which makes him about 32 when he married. 

   I thought he may have been a son of one of the brothers related to Mark Gilbert.   Mark actually has a brother David who was born in 1828.  This one never left Dorset.  He married Bethia Isaacs in 1848.    and they had about ten children   So he isn't an issue.

It's the other one.    I am going to cheeck something ..... be back aasap
Essnell.

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Limerick / Re: looking for information on Sophey [Sophie] gilbert bron 1899.
« on: Wednesday 07 May 25 10:37 BST (UK)  »
Hi  aghadowey,
Thank you for the info on David and Ernst.  I will file them away as "known but not related".   

Question:- Was there a Barracks anywhere in Dorset about 1870  and would Sally have received a pension . The 1891 Census has her as "living on own means". 
The rest of this lot are slowly working out, including a David who is part of the family.   More on that when I have it all sorted.   

Thank you again,
 Essnell.

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Limerick / Re: looking for information on Sophey [Sophie] gilbert bron 1899.
« on: Wednesday 07 May 25 05:44 BST (UK)  »
Hi Everyone, 
Essnell again.....  i decided to try contacting the owner of the records where those Census were posted. Hope i get a favourable reply and it helps.

Also now adding to earlier memebers of this family and have a person named David Gilbert who appears to have a connection to the Gilbert people in both Moor Crichel, Dorset and Clogheen Tippereary . I have tried to see if he was a son to any of the others i know about. not successful so far.

What  know :  Born C 1840  Woodbridge.
Married Sarah [Sally] Manning in 1872. 
Died in Clogheen Tipperary 1890.
David and Sarah have ten children.  The youngest in 1891 was 7months old named William Gilbert......   
and he was born in Clogheen 1890.
How long they were in Clogheen I am not sure but some time between 1886 and 1890. David died in 1890 in Clogheen.
Sarah[Sally] returns to York by 1891 with baby William and her other children. 
Sarah {Sally} died 1931in York 4th Jan.   Probate  granted 14th February to Ada he youngest Daughter. 

I am hoping to see if this family belong anywhere within the extended Gilbert 's from Moor Crichell, Dorset. 

thanks for any ideas or suggestions . 
Essnell.

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Hi kiltaglassan,
 Thank you for the latest document re Wilfred.  Yes that would be Wilfred  from this family.  Wilfred had a son Fred... k  and I have corresponded with him for a number of years.   He has not replied to my messages for some time so it's possible he has passed on, same as his wife.  His children are in the USA. 
 So now we are at living people era. 

Thank you
Essnell.

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Kiltaglassan and aghadowey, 

Thank you both for replies.
  First where I found this printed as set out above  minus the "////"  .....  it was through MyHeritage and a tree that is belonging to a relative of Thomas. Initially I was able to access the Family Search data Base that allows one to see their records for the chosen person.  It also allows one to add information or suggest alternative information with supporting source information.  So what I posted is what was on there. not MyHeritage

I  have not got back to that point since, but the information was added by someone with an account on there.  It's free. There is no way that the dates can be verified , unless you do bit of date matching, know Thomas's age at those dates etc.

For me they do relate but why were they posted as Census and not Residence.   I know that putting that up under Census is  silly to say the least.

The reason why they relate is because of a private family story which at this point in time is still a family hand-me-down story un-validated. 
Unfortunately those vanished Census Records would have helped  with that if they showed where Thomas was at a particular time and with whom.  :(   
Eventually Thomas moved to England and joined the Inland Revenue and worked with them all his life.

I have not tried to contact the person as there is so little information on there other than this list of dates and places he was. Not even his death information. 

Yes this is now touching on living people because it's their past.
 aghadowey. thanks for the pm offer.. will do .
Essnell

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Limerick / Re: looking for information on Sophey [Sophie] gilbert bron 1899.
« on: Thursday 01 May 25 02:01 BST (UK)  »

Hi Kiltaglassan,   The info is off My Heritage and a family tree actually a couple of those.    The link below is to one of those.

But I was able to view their Family Search link yesterday but can't get to it now. That has similar info posted by one of the younger generations.  However there is little else posted such as birth date marriage and death all of which I have documents for.  I didn't add anything at the time.   

There is a private story to all of this which is annoying as none of it can be proven.  something like an NPE.  that is why I was after those Census . 


https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-411057201-1-501131/thomas-hart-gilbert-in-myheritage-family-trees

maybe it would help if i Pm you what I know of the story.
 Thanks again    Essnell

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