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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Ancestry DNA Matches Updated Display
« on: Thursday 30 May 24 10:48 BST (UK)  »
Hi Cas, I am in Australia, not sure if the rollout is worldwide, but definitely in Australia as of this morning.

And rsel, you are probably right, it does look like a marketing ploy. We can't blame the geeks, they will just be doing what they are told.

I should also add that I have sent a strongly worded protest to Ancestry, both on their Help line and the Beta survey request. Perhaps if lots of people do the same, they will at least reverse the colour issue. That would be a really good start -my setup had become so intuitive that I didn't have to think twice about where my matches belonged.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Ancestry DNA Matches Updated Display
« on: Thursday 30 May 24 05:33 BST (UK)  »
I am in Australia, and have opened Ancestry this morning to the new Beta matches display.
I am NOT HAPPY!!

For a start, the group colours have changed, eg my yellow group is now ochre. Also, a letter reference has been insterted into the square (no longer circle) colour indicator. This is also confusing because there are several groups with the same initial.

This is all very annoying, as I had used up most of the available colours for my groups and through years of use they are second nature to me. I now have to re-learn a whole set of new colours, as when I looked at the new range, the original colours have been removed.

Surely if Ancestry wanted to introduce a wider range of colours, they could have just kept the primary colours that were already available, and added a range of shades to complement each one.

I haven't even started to look through the other changes that are there in the Matches page. No doubt they will be equally annoying and confusing.

For a company as big as Ancestry, you would think that before hoisting elemental changes on their customers, they might run their ideas through some of the users and see how they might affect them. I think sometimes it is the geeks in the backroom that come up with these ideas, think they look cool and push them through without thinking about the poor end-user who has to re-learn their system anew each time.

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Hi George,
 I know your original post was a long time ago, but I was wondering if you got any further with your enquiries regarding John Trevaskis and Esther. I believe her surname was Boyn, born in Scotland. Their second son was named William Boyn Trevaskis.
I believe Esther's grandparents were John Boyn and Jean Elmslie from Aberdeen. There was quite a Boyn clan in London at the time, who touched some pretty high circles, with one of them marrying an illegitimate half-brother of Queen Victoria.
I too cannot find a marriage for the couple, nor a baptism for Esther.
Also, if you don't mind sharing, could you please explain why you suspected John was born in Plymouth. And did you turn up any further information when you did some onsite research?
Many thanks, and if I can help you with any research, please let me know.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA match anomaly
« on: Wednesday 11 January 23 09:34 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,
Thanks for that elaboration.
As to whether those four matches are significant, I don't yet know.

I have a very stubborn brick wall  on my mother's maternal side, with matches indicating there may have been some fudging regarding surnames when our convict ancestors were banished to Australia.
Definitely a work in progress, so any "anomalies" are always intriguing -are they a lead, or just a red herring!

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA match anomaly
« on: Monday 09 January 23 09:20 GMT (UK)  »
Wow, thankyou all for your replies. I will have to work through them all and see if any of your suggestions apply to my strange case.

I have initially picked up this anomaly with these four cases, who are actually in pairs

With regard to phil57's comments, here are the details:

RS and CS are related. Looks like UK Tree.
My matches with RS and CS are 23(unweighted 24) and 20 (uw25)
My Mum's matches are 16 (uw17) and 16 (uw19).

The second pair are TS and JT. They are also likely related (?siblings). Tree is USA.
My matches are: TS 22 (uw22) and JT 20 (uw22)
My Mum's are: TS 9 (uw9) and JT no match.

So in all cases, even the unweighted amounts are greater in my matches than my Mum's.

In Mum's matches, the RS\TS pair are Maternal, and TS is Paternal
In my matches, all four are unassigned.

I have no evidence to suggest that these two sets of pairs are related to each other, which means that there are two separate examples where I have more DNA than my Mum from the same matches.

With regard to imputation, my memory is a bit dodgy but I am assuming that my test was after 2016, and Mum's was only a year or so ago. So that seems to discount the chip theory.

There may be more examples, but I have only just discovered these ones so can't say if it occurs frequently. I intend to look deeper into their trees, and see if my parents' ancestors do cross over somewhere in the past. 

I should add that I also have a couple of matches (not the above examples) which are matching to both my paternal and maternal lines. I am assuming that this might have occurred here in Australia in the 1800's when our population was relatively small. The various gold-rushes drew thousands of people in from the UK and the USA. But that's a puzzle for another day.....

Thanks again for all the responses, they are appreciated!










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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / DNA match anomaly
« on: Saturday 07 January 23 08:45 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,
I have noticed that I have several instances where a match on Ancestry DNA matches both my Mum and myself, but the amounts we match are reversed -that is, I share more DNA with the match than my mother does with the same match.
I have assumed that this means the match must be on both my paternal and maternal ancestral lines, and perhaps the lines linked up a generation or two further back on my mother's line than my father's.
Is this a correct assumption, or am I missing something here with regards to this anomaly?
Any advice will be most welcome!

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Hi all,
Well, I have woken this morning to find that the Common Ancestors have returned for all my cousins' accounts.
I think that the Ancestry system must have at last caught up with the fact that my Tree was Private Unsearchable after all these months, and turned off the Common Ancestors facility. I changed it the other day,  to Private Searchable.
It has only taken a few days for the Common Ancestors to be restored -maybe because all the algorithmic work had already been done and only had to be restored.
Anyway, all good now, and happy to have it all back to normal!

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Thanks for the replies.
But I still fail to see why this has suddenly stopped working, when I have been using the "Common Ancestors" feature for a year or more with this unsearchable private tree.

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The Lighter Side / Re: Bridal pregnancies?
« on: Sunday 07 February 21 07:52 GMT (UK)  »
Well, my grandparents really left their marriage to the last minute!
 
The marriage was held in London the day before their first son was born. Husband was son of a well-to-do family from Brighton. Wife was a lowly shop-girl working in the family Department Store.

I think the boss had dismissed her, and she had gone up to live in central London. Her own family came from North London.

I have a distinct image in my mind of bride's father standing beside them with a shot-gun, making sure hubby didn't do a bolt at the altar, and leave his daughter and her family in total shame.

As it was, hubby and his new wife and newborn baby were banished to the colonies (Australia) by his father, within three months of the birth. They cut him off almost completely.

It was a very hard life for Grandma, as it was in the middle of the depression, and there was no work to be had in the city. He would be away for months at time, leaving her to look after their family of now four children on the meagre funds he was able to send back to her. I have a letter from him to Grandma, asking for her to send him some shirts and pyjamas, as the work crew were living in tents in the cold winter months.

Sadly Grandfather died only 11 years after emigrating, and poor Grandma was stranded here with no means of support and no family here to help her. I remember Dad telling us that she used to take in washing, and also got off the tram one stop early so she could save a ha'penny to spend on her children. There was lots of tales of eating tripe, brains and lambs fry for dinner, and of course bread with dripping. 

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