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Quote from: alan o on Sunday 12 October 25 17:00 BST (UK)

I think you are reading too much into this - they were literally not casualties but interned.  So their names were not published on any casualty list. I assume they were missing in action in Norway and it took time until their MIA status changed to interned.  In the time it took them to get to Sweden and the their names to be sent back to UK by the Red Cross they would be listed as MIA as there was no confirmation of their deaths.

Alan I think I understand the point you making, but as Graham points out,  the bit I have highlighted is not correct. Their names were on a casualty list, because that's what the document where they are listed was called, as you can see from the heading from the previous page, shown below.

All occurrences of this type - deaths, injuries, capture, internment, missing etc - were (and still are) all  termed 'casualties' in military parlance, based on a different meaning of casual, namely irregular, not  permanent, as in casual labour.

However your wider point is correct; these men were not injured and it wasn't in the public interest for  their whereabouts to be released to the press in the same way that lists of men known to have been killed, injured or made prisoners of war were released for publication.

Today the MOD has a Joint Service Publication - JSP 751 - which is the complete manual for how to handle all types of casualties. It includes a section on dealing with the media, part of which says "The names of other [that is, those not listed as killed] casualties will not be released, other than in exceptional circumstances, and must only be carried out with the consent of the casualty or, if they cannot be consulted, their [emergency contact]".

That's really helpful.  Thanks so much Andy. 

STG

They were Interned in Sweden not Interred.
They were prisoners in Sweden not deceased casualties.


Tony

Sorry for the typo (interned, not interred), but that aside, I'm still interested to know why their details were "not publishable".

Apologies if this is a repeat, but I've only just found out about this offer and it only has a few days longer to run.

The info says "50% off our all-areas 12 month Everything subscription until 30 September."

I renewed my own subscription at the beginning of August 2025, so wondered whether I'd be eligible.  However, I've just phoned them and the answer was Yes!  They've put a code onto my account which means that when I renew next year, it will automatically be charged at 50% off.

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Hope it helps someone else.
STG

Can anyone help me with the two words above "unfit", please as the reason for this soldier's discharge from the army four days after enlisting for WW1.

Many thanks
STG

For the last two years I’ve cancelled my annual worldwide Ancestry membership and then immediately used the helpful link on Rootschat to resubscribe at half price.

I’m on the point of cancelling again and the website offers me the opportunity to pause membership, cancel membership or a ‘new’ option – ‘preserve my tree’ for £5.49 a month. (it says this will keep the tree active, retain progress made and allow the viewing of attached records).

I don’t want to preserve my tree, I want to keep working on it… but for the ‘cancel’ option the wording states “your tree stays active, but you ‘LOSE’ the records attached to it… you can view your family tree, but no record attached to it...”

Obviously I wouldn’t expect to view the records until I’ve resubscribed, but I wouldn’t actually ‘lose’ them, would I? If I resubscribed they would all just reappear?

That has always been the case, but the phrasing ‘lose’ the records is a bit alarming... I can't remember what wording was used when I last cancelled 

I cancelled my subscription a few days ago, ahead of my renewal date late next month, and I still have access to all the BMD, census records etc that are attached to the people in my trees.  My account now says that my subscription ends 25 July 2025, so sometime after then I'll use the 50% off offer to renew.  Hope this helps.

STG