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Hi Pastmagic,

Thanks for all your great advice and suggestions. Sometimes, a person can't see the forest for the trees.

I found Jollys as well, but they seemed to Roman Catholic, which I wouldn't have expected. I expected C of I.

However, my ancestor who came to America with her sister at age 16
married RC, so I wouldn't be surprised that this happened with the parents as well. I do seem to remember that the Catholic Church in Croghan was dual-purpose and was used for C of I services too. So, maybe folks in Croghan weren't rigid with regard to their religious views.

Her brother James Jollie also married RC in America, so we know the family could not have been too rigid.

The folks in Croghan may be able to enlighten those of us who know little about their history in this regard.

There's no need to add to this thread at this time, Past Magic. Your help is very much appreciated.

Robert


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Wow!

What a quick response.

I did a quick look at your link and looked at the family in Croghan headed by Thomas and Kate. Thomas is a couple of years older than Margaret Sadlier, my person of interest. Thomas is almost certainly a brotherand the names of three of the children are identical or similar to Margaret's children.

Another fascinating bit of info is the age difference between husband and wife (62 and 46). Margaret was also very young compared to her husband William Jollie (Jolley/Jolly). This may mean nothing, but it may reflect mores of the time.

I had not been down this route before and was unaware of the online archival information. I had done quite a few searches in the past with no good leads. Kudos and thank you.

The Enagh reference is a bit unusual for me. I'm not sure exactly what it refers to. I think they say "townland/street" in the census. Very good stuff.

In general, I have not found a wealth of information on the residents in the area of Croghan. I did, like you found some references to Sadliers in Griffith's online info, but there's not a lot of context.

Thanks again for some great leads.

Robert

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Offaly (Kings) / Re: Croghan
« on: Wednesday 03 November 10 18:14 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks, Oliver.

My Jolley/Jolly query should obviously be ignored on this thread, which refers to Offaly.

Thanks for catching that.

Robert

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Hi,

I am a descendant of William Jollie (spelled Jolly/Jolley in Ireland) and Margaret Sadlier (Sadler) of Croghan, Killapogge, Roscommon County.

William was born about 1819 and Margaret was born 8 Aug 1841. William was married first to Annie. We don't know her maiden name.

Son James encouraged and helped his family members to immigrate to North Dakota where he was First Sergeant at Ft Totten and where he met his wife, Marie Belgarde, a member of the Turtle Mountain Tribe and who actually translated for Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse at some point. James was a "Winner of the West" and had his own story to tell. Their story is a very interesting one and is kept alive today by family members in ND.

My own ancestor, his sister, came over with another sister at age 16 and made their way to ND while other family members made their way separately. The family did leave some members behind and certainly there must have been other relations who stayed behind.

Some family members have been to Croghan and seemed to have identified the family hearth--a small cottage. In fact, as of the last reunion, they told us that they saw a picture of William and Margaret still in the home! I would like to see this for myself.

We know that they leased property from Guy Lloyd, the major landowner in the area, but we do not know much else except they were probably members of the C of I.

We would love to find information that would lead us to William's family and Margaret's as well as the identity of Annie, the first spouse.

We know that twins Kate and Emma were born 7 May 1873 and were buried in the Croghan, Killapogge area as infants. Their births were registered in the Ballinameen Registrar's District.

Brothers George (b. 1857) and William (1855-1885) were in the English service and it's not known if they were buried near home. George died in service. William didn't fare much better.

We would love to know where these family members are buried as well.

Hopefully, someone in the Croghan area itself or a local amateur historian will have other information to add as they read this.

Robert

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Offaly (Kings) / Re: Croghan
« on: Wednesday 27 October 10 04:53 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

I am a descendant of William Jollie (spelled Jolly/Jolley in Ireland) and Margaret Sadlier of Croghan, Killapogge, Roscommon County.

William was born about 1819 and Margaret was born 8 Aug 1841. William was married first to Annie. We don't know her maiden name.

Son James encouraged and helped his family members to immigrate to North Dakota where he was First Sergeant at Ft Totten and where he met his wife, Marie Belgarde, a member of the Turtle Mountain Tribe and who actually translated for Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse at some point. James was a "Winner of the West" and had his own story to tell. Their story is a very interesting one and is kept alive today by family members in ND.

My own ancestor, his sister, came over with another sister at age 16 and made their way to ND while other family members made their way separately. The family did leave some members behind and certainly there must have been other relations who stayed behind.

Some family members have been to Croghan and seemed to have identified the family hearth--a small cottage. In fact, as of the last reunion, they told us that they saw a picture of William and Margaret still in the home! I would like to see this for myself.

We know that they leased property from Guy Lloyd, the major landowner in the area, but we do not know much else except they were probably members of the C of I.

We would love to find information that would lead us to William's family and Margaret's as well as the identity of Annie, the first spouse.

We know that twins Kate and Emma were born 7 May 1873 and were buried in the Croghan, Killapogge area as infants. Their births were registered in the Ballinameen Registrar's District. 

Brothers George (b. 1857) and William (1855-1885) were in the English service and it's not known if they were buried near home. George died in service. William didn't fare much better.

We would love to know where these family members are buried as well.

The story of the Croghan Hill Cemetery prompted me to join this thread and add my two cents.

Hopefully, someone in the Croghan area itself will have other information to add as they read this.

Robert

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