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Hi Chatters,

I would love to have some help with dating this family photo, which I believe to be of a member of my HARRIS family, from Hugglescote Leicestershire.

The original is slightly less than 6in by 4in, and is glued to a glossy white card, just a little larger. No photographer's name is visible, on either the front or the back of the cardboard mount, which simply has the name Emma written on it.

The children are also dressed in sailor suits, which I know were common for several decades. However, I would guess the date to be after 1878, which is when my great-grandfather Elijah HARRIS began writing again to his family in Hugglescote, Leics, after a gap of more than 20 years.

(He had migrated to Australia in 1855, and needed to do some catching up, as did his English relatives).

Many thanks,


Lesley
(In Nundle, NSW, Australia)



 



 

Hi Willsy,

Well, Sarah HARRIS chr. Hugglescote 10 Aug 1794 supposedly married Thomas MOORE at Thornton, 24 Nov 1819 ... but I am puzzled about why, if she was married, she was buried at Hugglescote under her maiden name (on  25 Mar 1866).

The age given (71) tallies exactly, presuming she was born between 26 Mar 1794 and 10 Aug ... which seems likely, as her parents had just married on 30 Jan 1794.

Interested in any comments about this - the chances that a married woman would have been buried under her maiden name, back in her home town ... or, alternatively, whether it could have been a *different* Sarah HARRIS who married Thomas MOORE.

BTW, Sarah MOORE appears in the 1861 Census as the mother-in-law of Joseph HARRIS, and her age checks out with her being the Sarah HARRIS from Hugglescote.

But the burial puzzle remains - unless, of course, the Sarah HARRIS buried in Hugglescote is a Mrs Sarah HARRIS, of the same age as my Sarah 

Cheers,


Lesley
(In Nundle, NSW - still sunny)

Hi Chatters,

Well, the Newgate Prison Register PCOM 2/201 has now been searched - and here is the result:

***
Frederick Henry
20
5/7 fairbrohaz Stouth.
St. Martins
Labourer
***

A photo of the record is being sent to me - but apparently, that means 5 ft 7 in, fair complexion, brown hair and hazel eyes, stoutish.

Nothing new there - but a *Labourer* (when his Convict Indent says Actor, Hatter (3 years) and Clerk.

St. Martins is probably St. Martins in the Fields - and there is no Frederick HENRY baptized there, in or around the right date. So, some more sleuthing needed ... was he Frederick someone else, and his mother remarried? Or, so I need to sift through *all* the males baptized in that parish at about the right time, looking for one who has disappeared.

(Not married, not buried, not found in the 1841 Census).

So, progress of a sort - but the puzzle continues 

Cheers,


Lesley

Hi Alicia,

Definitely the right family - I have your Martin MORGAN in my tree as born in Nundle, NSW (pop. 300), which is where I now live 

The Elizabeth HENRY you refer to is a daughter, not a sister. I am once again in a cloud of Doubt over Fred and his origins, with the *only* source of information being, as far as I know, the data on his NSW Death Certificate.

(The informant being my great-grandfather, his son-on-law, John ALBERTSON).

If you have *anything* else about Fred, I would love to have it. Much of what was written about him is (unfortunately) garbage, written by the family in the days when a convict past was something to be covered up, rather than flaunted. <sigh>

Lesley

Hi Teddles,

I would believe that about the violin ... the comment I read says "A Strad according to the label in it" (and I doubt that genuine ones - of which there were apparently *two* in Australia - came with a stick-on label) 

Cheers,


Lesley