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Thanks so much.  That is great.  I have been trying for ages to confirm that John and Ann were definitely the parents of my great grandfather Thomas James Lay, (hence oldtommy) evidently a once famous London gambler and bookmaker'.  He does not appear with the family on the 1851 census but leaves a suspicious slot between his brothers John and William.  I found a Thos Jas Lay in Shoreditch working away as a 'Pot boy' that seemed to fit the bill.  You have helped solve the mysteries and reunited once and for all young Tommy and his family.

Thanks once again

oldtommy

Could somebody please lookup 3, Wellington Street, Kingsland Road for me on the 1841 census.  The address is taken from an 1839 birth certificate which gives the registration district as St Leonards Shoreditch Middx.  The head of household hopefully is John Lay, but either way I would like to know who lived there.

Hi Alan
It would be interesting to see if we have a cross over in our family trees.  Thomas James Lay (Old Tommy) was an interesting character a one time 'famous London gambler and bookmaker'. I believe from the 1851 census he had siblings and would like to make some connection to them.

Jim Lay
(oldtommy)

I am trying to reunite my Great grandfather Thomas James Lay Born Dec 1836, St Leonards, (Hoxton) Shoreditch with his Father John Lay and mother who was possibly Ann Lay.  I would like to know if anyone could locate his household for me on any census between1841 to 1871?  I have made many attempts and cannot definitively connect Tommy with his parents.  I would be most gratefull as Old Tommy seems to dissapear off the face of the earth after he was born and not turn up again until his first marriage in 1864.  (still in Hoxton). ps. I have found the household of a John and Ann Lay on the 1851 census in Hoxton but no sign of Thomas James.