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Sussex Lookup Requests / Re: MORFEY born in Rye or Ripe, Sussex
« on: Monday 11 July 11 09:19 BST (UK)  »
Hi Lesley

I have details of the Saunter family.  Phyllis pregnant with Rudolph when she took up with Penfold - Rudolph alive but knows nothing about his parents as he was put in care along with the three children Phyllis had with Penfold.  All three Penfold children now dead, but by all accounts also knew nothing.  I am in touch with one of the children she had with the person she went to when she left Penfold but they knew nothing of her past children/marriages/liaisons - this Penfold is a mystery and difficult to trace because of reversing his name on the only evidence we have and no age to work to.  Not sure if any records would be available of workers in Kent in 1928-1930 - as he was a farm labourer he may have been cash in hand - if records are available where would the be kept?  There are the addresses given on the birth certs, might these be workers cottages rented out?  Again problem of finding records after such a time.

Dennis

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Sussex Lookup Requests / Re: MORFEY born in Rye or Ripe, Sussex
« on: Sunday 10 July 11 11:09 BST (UK)  »
Hi Lesley

I do have the birth certificates for the children and I already have the ancestry/history of the mother Phyllis Lawrence (she married a Stephen Saunter b circ 1902 Ticehurst) before leaving him to take up and have children with TFP/FTP.  The birth certs list mother under Penfold formerly Lawrence (not mentioning Saunter)  Name of father in oder of birth cert dates i) Frederick Penfold ii) Frederick Thomas Penfold iii) Thomas Frederick Penfold.  Fathers occupation farm labourer.  I can find no marriage between Lawrence/Saunter and Penfold.  The children were put into care under the age of 4 so they did/do not have any details of the father. 

I am currently wondering whether the Saunter connection to Thomas Frederick Penfold 1901 may be significant in that this may be how they met?

I also have some addresses from the birth certs which may help if someone has details of other Penfold addresses 1925-1930.  Part of the addresses: Speke's Bottom, Gillingham; Star Lane, Gillingham; Gooseberry Hall, Nonington, Eythrone.

Dennis

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Sussex Lookup Requests / Re: MORFEY born in Rye or Ripe, Sussex
« on: Saturday 09 July 11 23:30 BST (UK)  »
How about this as a possible birth for Ellen Elizabeth - not a Morfey but Morley

Births Dec 1874   
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MORLEY  Ellen Elizabeth     Eastry  2a 854

Eastry doesn't cover Rye where the census says she is from and 4 years younger

Dennis

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Sussex Lookup Requests / Re: MORFEY born in Rye or Ripe, Sussex
« on: Saturday 09 July 11 00:01 BST (UK)  »
I'm looking for information on the Thomas Frederick Penfold b1901 mentioned on this site.  Believe he may have had a partner and children (not married) in 1928-1930 around Gillingham and Nonington area but need to prove this.

Dennis

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Antrim / Re: Craig
« on: Thursday 14 October 10 17:33 BST (UK)  »
I have found the eleven children already on that site and searched the scotlandspeople site and found 5 deaths of these 11.  It is mainly ancestry of James I'm looking for and probably would like any information on Alice Paterson wife of son Alexander - here is her death notice

Alice Craig
(married to Alexander Craig - Irondresser)
7 December 1907    3h 50m PM
1 Bowlinggreen Terrace, Glasgow
39 Years
Father - Thomas Paterson - Farmer (deceased)
Mother - Margaret Paterson m/s Paterson (deceased)
Registered by A Craig - Son
BRIDGETON - GLASGOW

Regards

Dennis

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Antrim / Craig
« on: Thursday 14 October 10 16:54 BST (UK)  »
Please may I ask if anyone has researched or come across a James Craig (believe he was born Belfast c1845) who married a Sarah Porter (c1845 Glasgow).  I have a marriage for this pair in 1866 in Glasgow and they had around 11 children - the first 9 born Glasgow areas and most died in infancy.  The last two born Ireland John Ross Craig 1884-1916 and Rosina Craig 1891.  Would like to know parents of James if possible.

First child of this pair was called Alexander Craig b1866 Glasgow and he married in Belfast a Alice Paterson b1866 Countydown Marriage details below

Marriage: 2 May 1887 Saint Annes Church of Ireland, Shankill Parish, Belfast
Alexander CRAIG and Alice PATTERSON

Thanks
Dennis

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