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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Help tracing my grandfather please
« on: Saturday 03 December 22 20:36 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for bringing this one back.

Since posting, through DNA, I have discovered that my grandfather was William Rothwell Wolfenden who was born in Oldham in 1884 and died in 1937 in Manchester. He was married at the time of his relationship with my grandmother and had five children with his wife, one of them being born the same year as my mother! I have found him on the 1921 census so do know a little bit more about him.

I would love to see a picture of him but have had no success so far.

Thank you for your interest.

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Lancashire / Re: William Rothwell Wolfenden b. 1884
« on: Thursday 11 November 21 19:24 GMT (UK)  »
It was a very bizarre situation.  I can understand one Misfortune for my grandmother but to have three by the same man in the 1920s!!  He didn’t leave his family.  My grandmother was disowned by her family and moved to Northampton in 1926 where she stayed.  She came from a devout Irish Roman Catholic family and for a while I thought he might have been Jewish (my family have very Jewish looks and we often wondered where it might have come from) but I don’t think he was.   

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Lancashire / Re: William Rothwell Wolfenden b. 1884
« on: Thursday 11 November 21 19:00 GMT (UK)  »
Hi.

Thank you so much for your replies.  I shall look into the information you’ve provided and hopefully can move forward with my search.

Heywood: I haven’t been able to find any photos.  Is it a picture of William? 
Through the DNA results I managed to find his great granddaughter but she didn’t know anything about that side of the family.   Before my search I only knew his name so was delighted to find a match which confirmed who he was. 

Thank you all again.

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Lancashire / William Rothwell Wolfenden b. 1884
« on: Wednesday 10 November 21 21:34 GMT (UK)  »
Hi.

I have only relatively recently discovered through DNA testing that my biological grandfather was William Rothwell Wolfenden b. 1884 in Oldham.   My mother, along with her two sisters,  were his illegitimate daughters born between 1920 and 1925. I understand he was a married man with children and never lived with my grandmother.   His military records show he was discharged on medical grounds.  I have his death certificate and have found some information on him from the census records but cannot find any family that knew him or would know of his shady past.  Any suggestions on what I should do next.   I really want to find out more about him and these circumstances. 

Many thanks. 

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Help tracing my grandfather please
« on: Wednesday 30 January 19 20:59 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you again for your replies.

There is no occupation on two of the girls' birth certificates but on my mums it says charwoman.  I think she worked for a time at Booth Hall.  Her address on all the birth certificates is 101 Back Cropper Street, Manchester which was roughly in the centre of Manchester - now the Oldham Road dual carriageway, I believe.

Keyboard86 - that is indeed my grandmother.   She left Manchester in 1926 and relocated to Northampton where the family still live.  I have Charles Vickers death certificate and he did indeed die in 1918.  My grandmother told her eldest daughter the truth of their father but my aunt kept it to herself for many years until I asked where my grandfather was buried. 

Blackburn Fossil.  Thank you for that link.  I'll look into it. 

Alpine Cottage.  I have done Ancestry  DNA but it didn't come up with any close matches.  I don't know how she supported herself. 

Thornbird.

 

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Help tracing my grandfather please
« on: Tuesday 29 January 19 21:29 GMT (UK)  »
Hi.  Thanks for your replies.

My grandmother married Charles Vickers in 1914 and had two sons with him.  Charles died in 1918 and then my grandmother had three daughters with "William Woolfenden" out of wedlock. (1920, 1922 and 1925). She never revealed this fact to my mother or aunts who all believed that Charles Vickers had been their father and her story was that Charles had died in 1925 shortly before my mums birth. She did  eventually tell the oldest daughter shortly before her death.   It only came out to the rest of the family when I started tracing my family tree over 20 years ago and I asked this aunt where my grandfather was buried.   

I have my mother's birth certificate but the father is left blank as is her baptism certificate. All I know is a potential name.  One of my aunts is still alive and I would love to be able to tell her something of her father and to know who my real grandfather was.   

Many thanks. 

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Help tracing my grandfather please
« on: Tuesday 29 January 19 19:30 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all.  Advice needed. 

My Mum was born 14 September 1925 illegitimately to Annie Vickers (nee Shaw) in the workhouse maternity wing - she was never in the workhouse as such but as my mum was very overdue that is where she was sent.   (123 Crescent Road, Crumpsall).  All I know of my grandfather is that his name was possibly William Woolfenden.  I can find nothing about this relationship anywhere even though she had three illegitimate daughters by this man.   I think he may have been married but I'm not sure.  I also think he may have been Jewish but my grandmother came from a devout Roman Catholic family. 

My question is, how can I find the workhouse records to see if a fathers name was given so I could  clarify I have the right name and if it gives any further information?    Also, is there anywhere else I could look to find some information? 

Any help would be very much appreciated. 

Thornbird


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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Bastardy records.
« on: Monday 22 May 17 20:38 BST (UK)  »
Hi Willyam

Thank you for your very informative  post.  I believe you are right in that my search will prove fruitless.   

My mother's Birth Certificate has place of birth as 123 Crescent Road, Crumpsall which I believe is the infirmary attached to the workhouse.  My grandmother was not an inmate there as her address is 101 Back Cropper Street but I believe she had a difficult pregnancy with my mother who was very late and came out weighing a massive 10lb!    Do you know if there are any infirmary records from 1925 which could provide any further information? 

Kind regards.

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Bastardy records.
« on: Saturday 06 May 17 16:56 BST (UK)  »
Hi

Many thanks for replies.

My grandmother had told her three daughters that their father (Charles Vickers) had died in 1925, three months before my mother was born.  I have his death certificate which shows he actually died in 1918 before any of the girls were born.  She had told Teresa shortly before she died that she had to unburden herself and admitted that Charles was not their father.   I have all three girls birth certificates with just a line through the father's name.  My mother's baptism certificate also has no father mentioned on it.   I think the same man is the father of all three girls but cannot be sure.   My grandmother came from a strict catholic family and we had wondered if the father was Jewish as she was disowned by her family. 

Winifred is still alive and would love to know who her father was as I would love to know who my grandfather was and why she never married him.   

Thank you so much for the link you sent.  I will try them.

Many thanks again.

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