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Armed Forces / Re: Royal Navy Masters Logs, early 1800s. Duplicate log books?
« on: Tuesday 12 August 25 08:49 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, Wexflyer! Yes, that would make sense. Rather like the bishop's transcripts for parish registers.

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Armed Forces / Royal Navy Masters Logs, early 1800s. Duplicate log books?
« on: Wednesday 06 August 25 14:27 BST (UK)  »
Augustus Dalby, a brother of my 3g-grandfather, was promoted to Master in 1801, and I have found at the National Archives the Master's logs from some of the ships he served in. However there is something odd about them that I think needs explanation. There are two separate logs, clearly written by the same hand, with entries that contain almost identical text. Attaching examples from the first day of his service on HMS Carysfort, 31st July 1801. One entry is on a single page, the other spreads across two pages of (presumably) a different log book - though both are now bound together, with logs from other ships, at the National Archive. Is the first perhaps a draft of the final formatted entry that includes separate columns for navigational data? Why would both have been retained? (note - there's no navigation data actually recorded for 31st July, but entries for many other dates do include it). I have seen the same in his 1806 log for HMS Spartan, too, so this is not something unique to HMS Carysfort.

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) Lookup Requests / Re: MIs Howden 1848/49
« on: Monday 04 August 25 12:01 BST (UK)  »
I have returned to this after many years, and there are still a number of gaps in the Dalby records, though I've managed to sort out the Bonistons and Lawtons. Maybe I'll need a day trip to Beverley to trawl through the registers!

Particular questions about the 3 Feb 1808 burial of Margaret Warner. If this was indeed Margaret, daughter of David Dalby, she would have been born in 1765 but I've found no baptism record. This was before her mother Elizabeth, a Roman Catholic, had been baptised in the Church of England on 2 Nov 1766. I don't know if that is relevant. Margaret's sister Ann was baptised on 11 Oct. 1766, and her brother John on 18th May 1765. All this doesn't seem to leave much time for Margaret to have been born in between John and Ann, though I don't have their actual dates of birth, of course!
Another question is when and where did Margaret marry Samuel Warner, and where did he come from? The only marriage I can find was 20th April 1800 at St.Mary's, Lambeth, LONDON!  Not quite as unlikely as this may sound, as from the early 1800s her younger brother Octavius was living in London where he was working as a customs officer.

So - I have particular lookup requests - birth/baptism of Margaret Dalby in Howden or Asselby around 1765, daughter of David and Elizabeth. And some information about Samuel Warner - was he a Londoner or a Yorkshireman? I haven't found any mention of him anywhere near Howden. He'd have been born mid-1700s and died late 1700s-to1800s. Could be that he was living in east Yorkshire all the time, but somewhere that the records haven't yet been digitised.

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Thanks for that. Weird. If correct, it means he made not one but two trips to Canada before returning to England, where he was recorded, with his wife, in the 1911 census, and they then travelled to Canada together in 1912.

His age in 1909 was 24, so 25 is probably close enough. Age 19 is clearly an error, as the ticket number matches. One correction, by the way - it was St John, New Brunswick, not St John's Newfoundland (which would have made his onward travel to western Canada much more difficult!). He gave his destination as High Bluff, Manitoba.

In March 1910, Percy travelled as a steerage passenger on ss Lake Champlain, arriving in New Brunswick but stating his intention to travel onward to Springside, Saskatchewan. He gave his occupation before departure from England as 'farmer' despite there being no recent farming history in the family.

These destinations are obscure, and I think must have been pre-arranged for him, probably by his wealthy uncle Joseph Henley in New Westminster, BC.

On 28th June 1912, Percy and Sybil embarked on the Empress of Ireland, travelling first class, from Liverpool to Quebec. This time their destination was initially Saskatoon, from which they travelled onwards to Elfros, Saskatchewan - and their subsequent lives are quite well documented.


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Thanks for the suggestion, JJ. Yes, I have also corrected Wikipedia items. But this one is not Wikipedia. However, the historian is now writing a whole new article for publication in the Canadian art world, with updated and corrected data, so there's no need to do anything. There are still some unanswered questions, of course, but we're confident that the facts we have are now correct.   

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Henry Willis steel manufacturers of Sheffield
« on: Wednesday 25 June 25 20:09 BST (UK)  »
I think you must be right, Molly, and I just misread the address. And many thanks for the maps! I don't live too far from Sheffield and have visited the city several times, but it's changed so much in recent years that I find it hard to visualise it. It's the same in London's east end, where I lived as a child in the 1950s. Much of it is unrecognisable today - though I suppose better than all the bomb sites. And the shop on Fish Street Hill disappeared long ago - where it was is now the back of a concrete and steel office building

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Henry Willis steel manufacturers of Sheffield
« on: Wednesday 25 June 25 17:32 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, Molly! Have gone quite a bit further now. John Brown emigrated in 1881 with Louisa Ann Evans, granddaughter of William Willey, a prominent Sheffield cutler who had moved to London in the 1840s. After his death in 1853 his daughter Mary inherited his shop at 21 Fish Street Hill in the City of London (close to the Great Fire Monument). She married Evan Evans who continued to run the shop as a tobacconist/newsagent which also sold cutlery. Louisa was their daughter. But although John Brown had been living in Sheffield for several years, I've found no Sheffield connection between the two families.

John Brown left a family in Sheffield (including a son, Frank, born in 1882 after John had already  sailed to New York). After John left, his wife Caroline and their 6 children moved from Plumpton Street to Court 5, 8 Cambridge Road, Heeley - sounds to me like much smaller and cheaper accommodation. Caroline petitioned for divorce in 1894, and John Brown and Louisa Ann then married in Camden, New Jersey, in 1895. Frank eventually joined him in America and managed the organ-building business after his father's retirement.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Henry Willis steel manufacturers of Sheffield
« on: Monday 23 June 25 08:24 BST (UK)  »
Wow, Molly - I love the lateral thinking. Will check the address with the family's entry in the 1881 census but I'd bet it's the same.

And Alan, you may well have hit on the answer, that clearly any large order would have to be filled by a bigger company, not just the John Brown one-man-band.

Many thanks to both.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Henry Willis steel manufacturers of Sheffield
« on: Sunday 22 June 25 23:09 BST (UK)  »
I have a John Brown (born Hunslet 1852) who was an organ builder, employed by the London-based organ building company Henry Willis & Sons in the 1870s. But John and his family lived in Sheffield throughout the 1870s. Was there any connection between the organ building company in London and Henry Willis steel manufacturers in Sheffield? Were they owned by the same Henry Willis? Or did the London organ building company have a branch office in Sheffield?

John Brown then emigrated to the USA in 1881, initially working for Hilborne Lewis Roosevelt, an organ builder in New York (this was a non-political cousin of US presidents Theodore and Franklin Roosevelt). He later, in about 1885, set up his own organ building company in Wilmington, Delaware.

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