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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Mystery name
« on: Sunday 16 March 25 09:03 GMT (UK) »
Could it be Donna?
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Translation of Old Parish Registers Death
« on: Wednesday 20 November 24 16:59 GMT (UK) »
I think the location is Dalry Mills. A quick google revealed this was near/in Edinburgh and was later also known as Murrayfield Mills. The mill itself seems to have been a paper mill - I haven’t read further, but presumably the area nearby took the name of the mill?
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: 1857 baptism: notes in margins
« on: Thursday 13 June 24 22:59 BST (UK) »
Right hand side, I see a couple of possibilities:
‘Married in hast when daughter came about’.
‘Married a/in Hart when daughter Anne ***** (died??)’
‘Married in hast when daughter came about’.
‘Married a/in Hart when daughter Anne ***** (died??)’
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The Common Room / Re: Birth registration rules in 1901 UK
« on: Sunday 12 May 24 18:48 BST (UK) »We have to become detectives.
LM
We do, and that’s half the fun!
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The Common Room / Re: Birth registration rules in 1901 UK
« on: Sunday 12 May 24 18:45 BST (UK) »Sometimes we do have to make a judgement on the probability of something being correct, I think, otherwise we’d never be able to move on with our research.
In one branch of my family, everything further back than 1851 relies on one 16 year old girl who was living with her grandmother instead of her parents and siblings. She’s the only person I can find who fits, but if in the future I find something that proves her not to be correct, then all the previous ancestors will be wrong too. It’s something I revisit now and again.
I half agree with that, but sometimes I think I have the right info, but then find that burial of someone who I think is my ancestor as a child, a burial not picked up on before. I had a keen eye on my ancestor who wed in 1786 as being the same woman born 1762 in a nearby parish. But then found a burial today in 1767 of the 1762 one, listing parents, so I know it is a different person. The burial on the Ancestry search engine just gave first name but looking at the original, it said "Elis, daughter of John and Susannah Cripps".
That’s why I revisit my 1851 girl every now and again! I dread finding anything that would show she’s not mine, but it has to be done I suppose 🤭. But until then, I’ve made the executive decision to assume she IS mine (because to date I’ve done everything I can think of to look for an alternative) and carry on looking into her ancestors 🤣🤣🤣
On the positive side, with your recent find, it means you can start researching other possibilities!
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The Common Room / Re: Birth registration rules in 1901 UK
« on: Saturday 11 May 24 16:28 BST (UK) »Another relative I just could not find and he turned out to have his registration with Christian names wrong way round and a different surname, on 1881 they were then all named after the man she lived with and never married after having at least 9 children with him, what a complicated life?, and even then she went on to marry someone else and left her partner in a workhouse , using another surname, don't know how she got away with it, sadly for me she missed the 1911ccensus.
LM
Wow, that’s a complicated one! It’s a wonder you managed to find them at all! I did have a whole family registered under a completely different surname in one census - luckily all the first names were correct, plus they were where I expected them to be. I was in contact at one point with a distant relative, who told me that they’d used a different surname because the father had been a poacher and was worried about being tracked down!
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The Common Room / Re: Birth registration rules in 1901 UK
« on: Saturday 11 May 24 15:35 BST (UK) »
Sometimes we do have to make a judgement on the probability of something being correct, I think, otherwise we’d never be able to move on with our research.
In one branch of my family, everything further back than 1851 relies on one 16 year old girl who was living with her grandmother instead of her parents and siblings. She’s the only person I can find who fits, but if in the future I find something that proves her not to be correct, then all the previous ancestors will be wrong too. It’s something I revisit now and again.
In one branch of my family, everything further back than 1851 relies on one 16 year old girl who was living with her grandmother instead of her parents and siblings. She’s the only person I can find who fits, but if in the future I find something that proves her not to be correct, then all the previous ancestors will be wrong too. It’s something I revisit now and again.
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The Common Room / Re: Birth registration rules in 1901 UK
« on: Friday 10 May 24 13:51 BST (UK) »I have only half of a family baptised before they became orphans, a real shame as I have for years searched for one person, no registration and no baptism not found till he married, never found his date of birth either, with the help of others I became a super sleuth , why only register half of the siblings and only one baptism?
LM .
A very frustrating mystery! I hope you solve it eventually.
I have a family missing from the 1901 census. Again, I’ve tried every permutation I can think of to find them, but have come up with nothing. I wouldn’t have expected them to have left the country, but that’s one avenue I haven’t explored yet.
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The Common Room / Re: Birth registration rules in 1901 UK
« on: Friday 10 May 24 13:44 BST (UK) »Thank you, everyone, for all the information - it’s so useful.
How common was it for a child’s birth to go completely unregistered in the mid 1870s? Was that even possible? I haven’t been able to find my ancestor even though I’ve tried everything I can think of - different spellings, sounds like, searching different years, different areas, etc.
She obviously doesn’t want to be found!
I would agree certainly possible. I'm sure I've heard that something like 5% of births were not registered. However, here is a little task for you... why not see if you can find birth registration of any siblings? This would determine what registration district these the births fell into thus reducing the area you are having to search. Equally if you are not finding the birth registrations of any siblings (or maybe only some) you can deduce that these parents were busy/scatty/not concerned and were just 'non registerers' and then focus on searching for a baptism.
CD
Thank you for the suggestion - this is something I’ve already done, and I’ve found the registrations for her siblings, in the district I’d expect them to be.
The difference is that my direct ancestor - who was the last child - must’ve been illegitimate, born a few years after her supposed ‘father’ had died. I’ve even looked at census returns to check out the neighbours, and then searched to see whether there might be a registration for her under one of those surnames. thinking that perhaps one of them was the father. But nothing has ever come of anything I’ve tried. I’ve also tried searching just under her two forenames, regardless of surname, and then looked in the censuses for any children that I found, in order to rule them out.
I’ve tried everything I can think of, and have been trying for years to find her - but if anyone has any suggestions as to what I might try next, please let me know, I’m happy to give anything a go!