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Hi Peter, second cousin once removed  :). I am the great great grandson of John (of the Secret), my mother was a Craven and your second cousin.

Welcome.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: climo family
« on: Tuesday 23 August 11 11:42 BST (UK)  »
I was browsing the Polruan census for 1861 and realised that there were four or five families of Climos there. Since the Cornwall online census is free suggest you peek at all the years and get a picture of where they came from etc. Polruan is under 'Lanteglos in Fowey' to save you searching for it.

Good luck

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I haven't done an awful lot on the Cravens - only as far as they interact with my Cornish relatives via John Broadbent. In regard to his father John Craven of Newport, my gg grandfather, we are rather lucky in that he was caught three times by Census. The 1861 you know about when he had his wife and kids on board the 'Secret' in Yorkshire. You may not know about the 1881 census which places him master of the 'Albina' at Plymouth (see how these coastal ships allowed intermingling of Cornish and Yorkshire people!) or the 1891 census. The latter is particularly interesting as it has him Master of the 'Ariel' off Dungeness - this is where he drowned three years later.

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Thanks for the PM, Wendy. Really strange seeing those photos of the family on the Grovehill; John Craven is the spit of my brother, or vice versa.

One thing I noticed in your mercantile medal listing above; John Dumsford Craven is in fact John DUNSFORD Craven, named after his mother's family name in Saltash, Cornwall. He was my Grandfather, who died in 1963 and was born in Goole in 1875. The census of 1891 for ANTONY in Cornwall, lists John Broadbent Craven (father), Adelaide (formerly Dunsford) and John Dunsford Craven (son). My grandfather was a bit of a hero in WW2 as well, 'visiting' Dunkirk three times.

Regards Stan

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Looking at the 1861 census for John Broadbent Craven on board the 'Secret', I am the great great grandson of John Craven and the great grandson of John Broadbent Craven. John Broadbent Craven married an Adelaide Dunsford in St Austell in 1872. Their progeny became Cornish people ! My mother was Adelaide's grand daughter.

Adelaide was the daughter of Jane Dunsford of Saltash Waterside and her father (not generally known) was William Odgers VC . See my blog on William odgers and Family for the interesting history.

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