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Surrey Lookup Requests / Re: Woking Invalid Prison in Surrey
« on: Saturday 09 November 19 08:14 GMT (UK)  »
Excellent news, iluleah. I found my man's licence in the National Archives - by visiting Kew - the same for the Quarterly Returns. His 'stay' in Woking was too early for a photo, sad to say - so treasure yours! Well done for 20 years of persistence, and for not taking 'no' as an answer!

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Surrey Lookup Requests / Re: Woking Invalid Prison in Surrey
« on: Monday 07 October 19 17:51 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
Just seen your reply to someone about the Woking Invalid Prison. I did a lot of research for a book about one of its inmates and would be happy to share my findings with you. Contact me via ROOTSCHAT with anything you would like me to address.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Merchant Navy 1870
« on: Tuesday 01 September 15 14:39 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the additional information. It would be good to find out more.
I have the record of his indenture - though would like to see an original.
17 seems late to be starting as a raw recruit, so I am thinking he may have had basic training elsewhere. I'll follow your links to see if anything is mentioned regarding what evel he entered service.
Thanks again
Pandy

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Merchant Navy 1870
« on: Friday 28 August 15 11:34 BST (UK)  »
Thanks to you both - that's an amazing amount of information in a very short time! I don't have access to Find My Past at present, but will certainly think about looking there.
The dates are really interesting as they fit round a big family crisis.
The lad I am following was 17 and indentured for 4 years. I am wondering what training he would have had before that - 17 was quite old to be starting out. His family had hit hard times, but he was not in an institution, so some of the training ships 'avenues' don't help much.

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Family History Beginners Board / Merchant Navy 1870
« on: Friday 28 August 15 09:08 BST (UK)  »
I have a record of indentures to a ship: the Alfred Hawley, for 1870. How do I discover whether the 17 year old lad went straight on board or to Deptford for training? Records are sparse - but the system for training may have been standard - he was 17 in early Feb 1870 and the indenture is dated 27/6/1870.

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Surrey Lookup Requests / Re: Woking Invalid Prison in Surrey
« on: Saturday 02 November 13 10:26 GMT (UK)  »
Presumably you found the name in the prison quarterly returns.  You can also look at Licences - where prisoners had completed their 'tariff' - 3/4 of the their sentence, they were released 'on licence'. Licences contain all the information concerning prison earnings, state of health etc. and detail where prisoners were transferred to and when released.
The licences are available at the NA at Kew.
You will find lots of information about Woking Prison on http://wokingprison.blogspot.co.uk/
The blog has had no new posts for some time, but holds a lot of good information about the buildings, the set up and the prisoners.  It certainly suggests that the primary purpose of the prison was to hold mental patients - but whether they were ill before entering the 'separate, silent system' or whether they became so because of it, is for you to decide!

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: William Cave THOMAS 1820-1906 Artist.
« on: Sunday 05 May 13 20:41 BST (UK)  »
Some interesting 'snippets' there JJ - could be the corps formed for Artists - yes, truly, there really was one!
Thanks for your help.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: William Cave THOMAS 1820-1906 Artist.
« on: Sunday 05 May 13 20:16 BST (UK)  »
William Cave Thomas is said to have spoken with a Welsh accent - his name was sometimes written down as Cafe because of his 'soft Welsh accent'.
Could be a link - WCT may have been BORN in Marylebone, but his family may have been Welsh?

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: William Cave THOMAS 1820-1906 Artist.
« on: Sunday 05 May 13 19:52 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Mabel - I think I have read that address somewhere before.  The harpist is a new lead though - I'll check him out in case he is another member of the thomas family.

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