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Family History Beginners Board / Re: lilian semmons
« on: Wednesday 06 October 10 20:21 BST (UK)  »
Arranroots,

wise words,but you misunderstand me?  I am not insisting on a spelling? just pointing out that clearly in the BMD for the marriage of Lilian Semmons to Charles Samuel Catherall it is spelt this way.  I realise her birth cert may say otherwise from the census and other sources of information and will order online now I have the reference as without doubt this is the Lilian I am after and not the 'older servant girl' Lillie mentioned by another poster..

I will be happy to share the results when they are confirmed.

You have all been so very helpful and sorry for my typo mistake, as I was just confusing the issue, but it was unintentional.

Now I have found this site I hope to return and research my husbands tree when I get time.


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Family History Beginners Board / Re: lilian semmons
« on: Wednesday 06 October 10 20:05 BST (UK)  »
carol8353,

thank you, that was a typo on my part, so thanks for pointing out, I have edited now to put 1881 as DOB.

Indeed, nine would have been a little young for marriage, even in those days :o ;D ::)


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Family History Beginners Board / Re: lilian semmons
« on: Wednesday 06 October 10 16:31 BST (UK)  »
thank you Valda,

I had viewed the original index for Lilian on the BMdfree site and I am afraid even though typed the O and or E is obscure in the name semmons/semmens.  So I guess this is where the problem lies.

your explanation of the GRO is helpful too.

Ruskie,

I take your point that it does not matter as we know this is the correct lilian S, but when looking for her parents/ancestors then I am afraid the spelling does matter as there are many different versions of the name lillie and semons/semmons/semens/semmens and so on and it is very easy to go off researching the wrong family.

That of course does matter to the family concerned.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: lilian semmons
« on: Wednesday 06 October 10 10:10 BST (UK)  »
Valda,

On the freeBMD site there is a referencce of 3a,680 for the marriage of Charles Samuel Catherall and Lilian SemmOns, since these records are typwritten can we assume that they were transcribed wrongly then? as I would have to let the site know if that is the case?

I agree there are many different spellings of names which can make it difficult to trace distant ancestors and easily go off track into a totally different family.

Lilian was age 19 shen she married in 1900 and was therefore born in 1881(3a,257) and is clearly shown in the 1901 census as living with her husband Charles, then aged 23 at 112 Somerset road, Tottenham, one of the boarders listed was 'Lloyd Wallis' who was married to Charles Catheralls sister Rosina in 1902, (3a,228).(by way of further verification).

She died age 67

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: lilian semmons
« on: Tuesday 05 October 10 15:30 BST (UK)  »
Valda, thank you for your very comprehensive reply, some interesting information there.It is so very easy to go off in the wrong direction isn't it?

family members of course can use 'inside knowledge' and memories of conversations with our loved ones that help us on to the right path and of course possess the original certificates.

This is a great site.


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Family History Beginners Board / Re: lilian semmons
« on: Tuesday 05 October 10 03:35 BST (UK)  »
The family DO know the correct spelling of the name of their grandmother, thank you Diane.

It is Lilian Semmons (note one L in lilian). Her birth date was correct at 1881 as she was 19 when she married Charles Samuel Catherall in 1900, (the marriage ref is 3a,680)

However, in searching for our ancestors we often find the surnames are miss spelt by the clerks filling out the forms as they were often relayed verbally by the participants.

The original derivation for the name Catherall is in fact Catterall and is a place name in Cheshire from which the family may have originated and came to England during the Norman Invasions as the name is Scandinavian in origin. Katta raile, meaning cats tail.

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