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Armed Forces / Re: 55th foot 1813-1820 - Richard Friett
« on: Wednesday 30 January 13 03:55 GMT (UK)  »
I think your best bet is a visit to the National Archives at kew if you can get there, and look at the Regimental Muster Rolls.
You will need to register as a reader when you get there, you'll need your passport or driving license, because of the photo ID, and 2 utility bills, your birth certificate as well would be a good idea. They'll issue you with a readers card that is valid for 3 years.
If you can't get there you can contact the National Archives, and for a fee they will photo copy the relavant files for you - and there will be a lot ! if you want every page copied where his name is listed.
I did this for my Gt Grandfather who served in the 44th foot 1854 - 1860, and it took me nearly all day ! But so worth it ! you can only order 2 files at a time so as you take 2, you need to order 2 more, or you'll never do it in a day, and you might not then if it's busy, weekdays are best.
The Regimental Muster Rolls for the 1st Battalion 55th foot are in WO12 / 6484 1813 - 1814 thro' to WO12 / 6487 1819 - 1820 for the dates you are interested in.
 Here .... http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/browse/C2466321?ck=!&sUp=false&sK=C2466321&v=r

These are the files you need to order through their computer terminals, or by quoting them by phone if you can't get there.

They'll show your man in alphabetical order, at every 1/4 of the year - the books were for use mainly for pay purposes they needed to know where a man was and what he was doing at any given time in order to get his pay to him, and any periods he wasn't entitled.
They'll show his regimental no. , periods of sickness and if in hospital, periods of leave, and punishment detention or pay stopages, and any men that were killed and where, ships embarked on for overseas duty and of course wherever he was at any given time.
They are the next best thing to a service record of that era.

Good luck

Standfast

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The Lighter Side / Re: Interesting Article:"When Genealogy Digs Up Unwanted Secrets" Oh My!
« on: Wednesday 30 January 13 00:44 GMT (UK)  »
Oops !  ::) you're quite right rancegal ! - and i should know better !  :-X

I actually got into a very protracted debate on another forum, many having differing views on the subject, and all heartfelt - it did get very very heated ! It's a very emotive subject for sure.
I've read some of the Courts Martial papers relating to some of the shot at dawn cases, and as you say the subject provokes strong emotions.
My view point has always been that whether or not they were guilty by the standards of military Law at the time, at least in the cases of those who were executed you'd be hard pushed to find even by considering the standards of military law at the time, anything that resembled a fair trial.  >:(
There are though some cases which on the face of it ( by the standards of military law then ) were correctly brought before the courts, it's the manner in which they were prosecuted that i've always had issue with.
Below i've pasted a link to the video of a lecture on the subject of Harry Farr that you might find interesting.
The Lecture is given by Professor Simon Wessely at Gresham College.
It is in my opinion a very objective view of the whole sorry case. you can also download the video from the page.
http://www.gresham.ac.uk/lectures-and-events/shell-shock-or-cowardice-the-case-of-harry-farr
Let me know what you think.

Standfast

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help with this Testament Dative
« on: Monday 28 January 13 20:36 GMT (UK)  »
GR2, thanks so much for all the trouble you've gone to helping me out with this, it's pushed my research forward a long way.

Complete speculation i know, and no way of ever proving it, but i now think it's a real possibility that as Christiane her third, and last child was baptised on the 29th December 1633, that Jonets death was very possibly as a result of child birth.
I had previously been working on the theory - again no likleyhood of ever proving it, that Jonet and Duncane died within months of each other, maybe as a result of one of the many disease epidemics that were going around at the time. Thanks to you i can discount that one.

Many thanks.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Witness Signature for 1788 Marriage
« on: Monday 28 January 13 11:56 GMT (UK)  »
I think the the first name in the second signature is a shortening of archibald - with a small d on the end of arch as it is often written.

Standfast

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Cant read all of a baptism from 1699
« on: Saturday 26 January 13 23:39 GMT (UK)  »
                             Thursday 16th march 1699

James Tweedie worker & Elizabeth Borthwick a.d.n. Marie . W .  Robert Gray of Rubartom ??
Alexr Borthwick of Halaw Hill. John Gowan mercht William Jamison Glazier

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help with this Testament Dative
« on: Saturday 26 January 13 21:04 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for all of this.
I've been researching my family history for nearly 15 years now, and i've spent 4 years on just this generation.
It's easy looking back with hindsight, but it's knowing where to look to confirm BMD's in the OPR's when there's no definate connection when so many varying versions of a surname is given.

You've given me a huge amount to work with, and new sources i'd never considered here.

Again i can't thank you enough.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help with this Testament Dative
« on: Saturday 26 January 13 19:16 GMT (UK)  »
I really can't thank you enough for all this GR2, i never expected any of this !

Another question.

If Jonet is in need of a 'Tutor' ( i have seen this sort of note, and presumed it to be just that - a private teacher - ) to take care of her personal, and legal affairs, then would it follow that her Mother Jonet Edmistoun was also dead by this date, or was it neccesary for the child to have a male take this role.

Thanks again

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World War One / Re: How do you begin?
« on: Saturday 26 January 13 18:44 GMT (UK)  »
Helping you along a bit - i forgot to mention the CWGC - Commonwealth War Graves commission
www.cwgc.org - so i looked for you.
You can eliminate these two who appear on the MIC's - both killed in action. Pasted from the seach results page.

2 record(s) match your search criteria
         
Name Rank Service Number Date of Death Age Regiment / Service Service Country Grave /
Memorial Reference Cemetery / Memorial Name
TWEEDIE, R Serjeant 200473 03/12/1917  Highland Light Infantry United Kingdom H. 53. RAMLEH WAR CEMETERY
TWEEDIE, ROBERT Private 8806 25/04/1915 34 Seaforth Highlanders United Kingdom Panel 38. YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help with this Testament Dative
« on: Saturday 26 January 13 17:31 GMT (UK)  »
Wow !  :o  i certainly haven't got this !
I copied it into a latin translator -below.
I can't thank you enough for this GR2.
 
Translation.
 
Jeanne EDMONDSTOUN spouse John Measoune merchant burgess of Edinburgh, heir of James Edmondston proportioned sartoris burgess of Edinburgh, his father - in the tenements in Edinburgh.
(924), Apr. 30. 1644
MARGARET EDMONDSTOUNE bride Dicksoun secretary James and Agnes EDMONSTOUN Ackinheid secretary David spouse, heirs portioner Edmondstoun aforesaid James, father, - in the tenements in Edinburgh said.
Also 1 found the following entry into the study of the Defense:
(1186) April 15. 1606
WILIELMUS GAWY Scrogtounheid on the Douglas - closer cousin, that is relative on the father JENETAE GAWY legitimate daughter of the deceased Robert Gawy scissoris and burgess of Edinburgh.

The information i can immediatly take from this, is in narrowing down the date of Robert Gawy(ies)
death to no later than the date of this entry April 15th 1606, Jonet would not have reached her 3rd birthday by that time.
 
Questions ! ....
 
Do you know the defnitions of these words -
sartoris, and Scrogtounheid - Scrogtounheid looks like old Scots Scrogtounheid, a place name ?
 
Thanks so much for looking this up GR2

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