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Scotland / Re: Question about Services of Heirs
« on: Saturday 04 December 10 15:28 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps the service of heirs was necessary since the MacFarlanes were living in Canada.
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Scotland / Re: Question about Services of Heirs
« on: Saturday 04 December 10 01:20 GMT (UK) »
I finally looked at the service of heirs today.
It was indeed the case that Janet Anderson's children in Canada were receiving the fifty pounds left to Janet in Captain Matthew Anderson's disposition and settlement. Only the children in Canada are mentioned, as Matthew said that the money should go to only Janet's children living in North America.
This all seems like a lot of trouble just to have 50 pounds split six ways.
Stefan Ramonat
It was indeed the case that Janet Anderson's children in Canada were receiving the fifty pounds left to Janet in Captain Matthew Anderson's disposition and settlement. Only the children in Canada are mentioned, as Matthew said that the money should go to only Janet's children living in North America.
This all seems like a lot of trouble just to have 50 pounds split six ways.
Stefan Ramonat
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Surname from 1689 Baptism Record
« on: Thursday 02 December 10 22:58 GMT (UK) »
It could definitely be -thron, but I think I would have noticed a name like that when I went through the later records. Bonthron fits nicely, but it does not appear that any Bonthrons lived in Neilston. No Bonthrons are listed on the 1695 Poll Tax returns for Neilston.
I thought that it might be Renthrew myself, since Renfrew was a relatively common name in Neilston, but I noted some records other records from 1689 that spell it –frew. A James RENFREW was baptised 21 July 1689 and a Margaret RANFREW was baptised 16 September 1689, both at Neilston. However, sometimes names are even spelled in different ways in the same document, so perhaps it is Renthrew/Renfrew.
Stefan Ramonat
I thought that it might be Renthrew myself, since Renfrew was a relatively common name in Neilston, but I noted some records other records from 1689 that spell it –frew. A James RENFREW was baptised 21 July 1689 and a Margaret RANFREW was baptised 16 September 1689, both at Neilston. However, sometimes names are even spelled in different ways in the same document, so perhaps it is Renthrew/Renfrew.
Stefan Ramonat
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Surname from 1689 Baptism Record
« on: Thursday 02 December 10 21:18 GMT (UK) »
Attached is an image of some 1689 baptism records from Neilston, Renfrewshire. These are some of the few pre-1701 records from Neilston that have survived. Unfortunately, the page is cut off on both sides.
The entries are of the form {FATHER'S NAME [First Last]} in/of {RESIDENCE} had a child baptised named {CHILD'S NAME} {DATE}.
The second partial entry says "-throw (?) of Bradelie had [a child] bapt. named Jean March ?."
"Bradelie" is Broadlie, which was just outside Neilston Village. In 1675, John Stewart (elder) and a Stevenson family each owned half of Broadlie. In 1680, Matthew Anderson (my ancestor) obtained 2/3 of the Stevenson half, and Matthew acquired the entire other half sometime between 1688 and 1695.
Does anyone have any idea what the surname in the entry might be? I believe in ends with "-throw," but I have been unable to find any surnames ending that way in the later records from Neilston.
Thank you,
Stefan Ramonat
The entries are of the form {FATHER'S NAME [First Last]} in/of {RESIDENCE} had a child baptised named {CHILD'S NAME} {DATE}.
The second partial entry says "-throw (?) of Bradelie had [a child] bapt. named Jean March ?."
"Bradelie" is Broadlie, which was just outside Neilston Village. In 1675, John Stewart (elder) and a Stevenson family each owned half of Broadlie. In 1680, Matthew Anderson (my ancestor) obtained 2/3 of the Stevenson half, and Matthew acquired the entire other half sometime between 1688 and 1695.
Does anyone have any idea what the surname in the entry might be? I believe in ends with "-throw," but I have been unable to find any surnames ending that way in the later records from Neilston.
Thank you,
Stefan Ramonat
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Midlothian / Re: Sasine records
« on: Thursday 25 November 10 00:31 GMT (UK) »
Have you checked the NAS catalogue? The NAS holds many family papers that can include charters, bonds, etc.
Some entries for King of Dryden:
Instrument of Resignation by Mr Alexander Kinge [King] of Drydane [Dryden], advocate, of 10 acres of lands of Pentland, in favour of Mr John Nicolsone [Nicholson] of Leswaid [Lasswade], commissary of Edinburgh, and Elizabeth Henrysone [Henderson], his spouse. 8 Jun 1601
Charter de me by James King of Drydane, advocate, with consent of Janet Dowglas, his spouse, to Mr. Robert Bruce, son to deceased Sir George Bruce of Carnock, knight, of annualrent of 800 merks Scots furth of lands of Nather Inzievar 14 Aug 1628
There are also some documents mentioning King and Burnhouse.
Stefan Ramonat
Some entries for King of Dryden:
Instrument of Resignation by Mr Alexander Kinge [King] of Drydane [Dryden], advocate, of 10 acres of lands of Pentland, in favour of Mr John Nicolsone [Nicholson] of Leswaid [Lasswade], commissary of Edinburgh, and Elizabeth Henrysone [Henderson], his spouse. 8 Jun 1601
Charter de me by James King of Drydane, advocate, with consent of Janet Dowglas, his spouse, to Mr. Robert Bruce, son to deceased Sir George Bruce of Carnock, knight, of annualrent of 800 merks Scots furth of lands of Nather Inzievar 14 Aug 1628
There are also some documents mentioning King and Burnhouse.
Stefan Ramonat
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Renfrewshire / Re: "Interred the family burial ground"
« on: Saturday 30 October 10 11:59 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that link.
The John McFarlane (married to Jane Anderson) on that one grave was a brother to Margaret and James. John died in 1831, but his stone was placed there by John's daughter Margaret in 1884.
Stefan Ramonat
The John McFarlane (married to Jane Anderson) on that one grave was a brother to Margaret and James. John died in 1831, but his stone was placed there by John's daughter Margaret in 1884.
Stefan Ramonat
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Renfrewshire / 1695 Poll Tax
« on: Thursday 28 October 10 20:22 BST (UK) »
Hello,
I just went through David Semple's transcript of the 1695 Poll Tax returns for Renfrewshire. I was looking for a John Andrew, who lived in Drumgrain in the Parish of Neilston.
I know that John Andrew was born about 1650 and was a son of Matthew Andrew in Drumgrain. John was given a feu-charter to the 20 shilling 6 penny land of Drumgrain by John Wallace of Neilstonside in 1684. John died before 1709, when Drumgrain was inherited by his son John Andrew. It is worth noting that the Andrews were called “in Drumgrain,” as opposed to “of Drumgrain” even after 1684. Drumgrain was sold for just over 273 pounds by Janet Andrew (daughter of the second John Andrew) in 1758.
There are two John Andrews, both with sons named John, living in “Neilstounsyde Lands in Dumgrein” listed in the transcript:
1. John Andrew, valued at 18 pounds 10 shillings. No wife, but children John & Marion.
2. John Andrew, valued at 25 pounds 10 shillings. Wife Jennet Lachlane, children John and Matthew, and servant Jean Cochrane.
Is there anyway to determine which one of these John Andrews is mine? I am leaning towards the second one, since he is valued slightly higher and has a servant.
Stefan Ramonat
I just went through David Semple's transcript of the 1695 Poll Tax returns for Renfrewshire. I was looking for a John Andrew, who lived in Drumgrain in the Parish of Neilston.
I know that John Andrew was born about 1650 and was a son of Matthew Andrew in Drumgrain. John was given a feu-charter to the 20 shilling 6 penny land of Drumgrain by John Wallace of Neilstonside in 1684. John died before 1709, when Drumgrain was inherited by his son John Andrew. It is worth noting that the Andrews were called “in Drumgrain,” as opposed to “of Drumgrain” even after 1684. Drumgrain was sold for just over 273 pounds by Janet Andrew (daughter of the second John Andrew) in 1758.
There are two John Andrews, both with sons named John, living in “Neilstounsyde Lands in Dumgrein” listed in the transcript:
1. John Andrew, valued at 18 pounds 10 shillings. No wife, but children John & Marion.
2. John Andrew, valued at 25 pounds 10 shillings. Wife Jennet Lachlane, children John and Matthew, and servant Jean Cochrane.
Is there anyway to determine which one of these John Andrews is mine? I am leaning towards the second one, since he is valued slightly higher and has a servant.
Stefan Ramonat
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Renfrewshire / "Interred the family burial ground"
« on: Tuesday 26 October 10 23:46 BST (UK) »
Hello,
I recently came across the death/burial record for Margaret MacFarlane, a sister of my third-great-grandfather James MacFarlane, in the records for Neilston.
Almost all of the other entries just give the death date, name, residence, and age, but Margaret has a long entry, presumably since her husband was the session clerk:
Deaths in 1848
May
Died on 21
Margaret Macfarlane wife of William Anderson session clerk Neilston was interred in the family burying ground in the church yard of the Parish of Neilston on the 26th of May eighteen hundred and forty eight years
aged 62
I have a book of pre-1855 monumental inscriptions for Renfrewshire, but I cannot find anything that could be this “family burying ground.” The family of Janet Anderson, Margaret’s mother, had been in Neilston for centuries and in 1680 had acquired a small piece of land called Broadlie. There are, however, no gravestones for the family mentioned in the book.
The family of Margaret’s husband William Anderson had also lived in Neilston since at least the early 1700s (I believe that William was a relative of Margaret). William, his father, and his grandfather were all teachers. William and his grandfather were both session clerk at some point (I do not know about William’s father). There also appears to be no stones for them.
Could it be the case that the “family burying ground” does not have any markers (or at least none that explicitly states who is buried there)? If so, is there anyway I could determine where it the church yard it is located?
Stefan Ramonat
I recently came across the death/burial record for Margaret MacFarlane, a sister of my third-great-grandfather James MacFarlane, in the records for Neilston.
Almost all of the other entries just give the death date, name, residence, and age, but Margaret has a long entry, presumably since her husband was the session clerk:
Deaths in 1848
May
Died on 21
Margaret Macfarlane wife of William Anderson session clerk Neilston was interred in the family burying ground in the church yard of the Parish of Neilston on the 26th of May eighteen hundred and forty eight years
aged 62
I have a book of pre-1855 monumental inscriptions for Renfrewshire, but I cannot find anything that could be this “family burying ground.” The family of Janet Anderson, Margaret’s mother, had been in Neilston for centuries and in 1680 had acquired a small piece of land called Broadlie. There are, however, no gravestones for the family mentioned in the book.
The family of Margaret’s husband William Anderson had also lived in Neilston since at least the early 1700s (I believe that William was a relative of Margaret). William, his father, and his grandfather were all teachers. William and his grandfather were both session clerk at some point (I do not know about William’s father). There also appears to be no stones for them.
Could it be the case that the “family burying ground” does not have any markers (or at least none that explicitly states who is buried there)? If so, is there anyway I could determine where it the church yard it is located?
Stefan Ramonat
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Words Describing Date (Latin)
« on: Wednesday 20 October 10 19:50 BST (UK) »
I (finally) realized that it says "de mearns" right before the date. Mearns refers to the town in Renfrewshire. On the line above, I see it says something about "mea subscription," so I guess that the charter that forms part of the sasine was subscribed at Mearns on 07 June 1684.
Stefan Ramonat
Stefan Ramonat